Hello Carol; We would use our Third Party process see http://orsa.uoregon.edu/web/forms/Form_3_Third_Party_Cost_Share_Cert.pdf Gary -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Carol Hillmer Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:22 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Effort question -- Professor emeritus as PI on grant A follow up question in regard to effort for emeritus -- if a Emeritus Professor does not wish to receive salary compensation on their project, how would you certify their effort commitment? In our system, we would be able to provide the individual with a $0 appointment, but would have no funding string to which effort would equate. Any thoughts on this would be helpful. Carol Carol Y. Hillmer Assistant Dean CALS Research Division -- UW-Madison 136 Agricultural Hall -- 1450 Linden Drive Madison, WI 53706 (608) 265-5495 phone (608) 265-9534 fax _________ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:10:43 -0500 From: "Vigiolto, Margaret" <xxxxxx@DREXEL.EDU> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Professor emeritus as PI on grant Sender: Research Administration List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org At Drexel, some of our retired faculty remain research-active and our policy states that emeriti may be granted principal investigator status. However, we would not grant PI status if we feel that the institution will have insufficient control over the work (i.e. as in the case of the PI who is working alone and permanently located in a far away state). We generally propose salary at the rate at which the professor retired, although if they are actively consulting, you may want to document and establish a more appropriate rate to use going forward. The key is to have a logical and defendable basis for the salary rate. If an award is made, we hire the professor at the level of effort approved for the proposed work. The professor and the work are subject to the usual controls and compliance checks, and we treat the project with the same care and standards that we apply to all sponsored projects. Peggy Vigiolto Associate Vice Provost Office of Research Drexel University 3201 Arch Street, Suite 100 Philadelphia, PA 19104 215-895-2311 215-895-6699 fax xxxxxx@drexel.edu __________ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:29:46 -0600 From: Bill Campbell <xxxxxx@UWRF.EDU> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Professor emeritus as PI on grant Sender: Research Administration List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Tim, my institution has done this several times. In at least one case, we paid the professor an honorarium w/ no fringe benefits--that was for a short-term task. In other cases, we've put them back on the payroll at a mutually agreeable rate and included standard fringe benefits in the proposal budget. Sometimes we've used their final salary level, pre-retirement as the basis for figuring their grant-funded salary. In all cases, we've treated the proposals--and the projects that resulted--in the same way as other university proposals: monitoring compliance, accounting procedures, etc. In other words, we haven't just provided the retired faculty with a laundry for the funds. Not that your colleague was thinking of that, of course. Regards, Bill Bill Campbell Director, Grants & Research University of Wisconsin-River Falls 410 S. 3rd St. River Falls, WI 54022 715/425-3195 FAX 715/425-0649 __________ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:26:32 -0500 From: Angela Sgroi <xxxxxx@TCNJ.EDU> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Professor emeritus as PI on grant Sender: Research Administration List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Tim, I just did this for one of our emerita professors. I used the salary range and step at which she retired and asked HR to give me the actual salary projections for the dates of the proposal. Angela ____________ At 12:12 PM 3/7/2007 Wednesday, Tim Kirby wrote: >Could anyone share their policy on this. Professor is retired but >would >like to use the University for affiliation. If allowed, how would you >calculate salary since retired professor is no longer on the payroll? > >Thanks. > > >Tim Kirby >Director, Office of Research and Sponsored Programs >Montclair State University >College Hall, Room 309 >Upper Montclair, NJ 07043 > >973-655-7534 >FAX: 973-655-5150 > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== Carol Y. 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