Well, I admire your education. I worry truly what mine looks like: an MFA in fiction. When I'm not hungry, I am a good writer. Teaching experience, too, lends skills to my presentations. But anyway, I do feel offices of research favor hiring scientists above the rest. >>> "Lenox, Janis" <xxxxxx@VA.GOV> 3/14/2007 11:28 AM >>> I support the idea that people wanting a senior position are not coming up through the ranks. But it is not necessarily because they don't apply. My experience is that after years of gathered experience (within the research field doing budgets, proposals, and financial management of same) and going to school (at the same time) to receive a BS in accounting, MBA in finance and a MS in taxation, that my experience and degrees do not rank as high as in the eyes of those doing the screenings. It seems like many institutions keep looking for that "fresh view" to make their systems and procedures work better. I often see outsiders brought in over experienced staff. I'm not saying that sitting in a chair should move you to another level within your organization, but I don't see many institutions really following the promote-from-within policy either. It's as if the person has been classified by upper managers as to our abilities and skill level because we took a position at a lower level. Often to move ahead, many people have to move to other institutions. Then I'm questioned on why I move around so much. If I stay in one place, I don't move at all (or very slowly). thanks Janis Lenox, Director, Contracts & Grants Northern California Institute for Research and Education (NCIRE) 4150 Clement Street, NC-151 San Francisco, CA 94121-1545 Office: 415-750-6954, ext. 5536 Fax: 415-750-9358 Email: xxxxxx@ncire.org <mailto:xxxxxx@ncire.org> website: www.ncire.org <http://www.ncire.org> ________________________________ From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Watson, Mary Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:07 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Raising the "younger" generation of administrators Interesting topic - and one that is coming home for me. Governors State University is seeking a new Director of Sponsored Programs and Research. The announcement has been posted in all the 'right' spots, including on some professional organizations' websites. The initial posting went out two weeks ago and to date we have, I believe, 8, possibly 9 applicants! A few years ago that number would have been easily doubled. This is an attractive location, just outside Chicago; the school is young and evolving, with lots of energy, and the office was just established in April 2006 so there is plenty of room for creativity and growth. Why so few applicants? I am thinking that the people wanting a senior position are simply not coming up through the ranks, somehow. And, your questions, Robin, about what are we as a profession doing are really pertinent. I do wonder, what ARE we doing to sell this work as valid and exciting and, yes, might I say, even fun - sometimes? Mary H. Watson, Ph.D. Director, OSPR Governors State University ________________________________ From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Dewey, Robin Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:52 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] Raising the "younger" generation of administrators Several interesting questions posed this week and last week and this week have gotten me thinking... What are we collectively doing to encourage the younger generation to follow in our footsteps? Surely it isn't the compensation - just kidding. But seriously, outside of professional meetings do you do anything? Try to get others at your institution interested in grants? Talk to people younger than that? Out of curiosity what do you find the age demographic to be at your institutions? I am certainly one of the youngest around my hallways at 33 - and the funny thing is I consider this to be my second career because I started it at 29. I don't see many people my own age doing this, and I wonder if in 5 or 10 years we are going to have a severe shortage of people in the field? Just some random ideas I've had floating around my head ever since Maggie Bryan-Peterson from SUNY Fredonia said "Where have all the administrators gone? ;-)" Robin ************************************** Robin Dewey Research Grants Manager Department of Medicine Administration University of Rochester Medical Center 601 Elmwood Avenue Box MED, Room 3-3236 Rochester, NY 14642 Phone: 585-275-6253 Fax: 585-442-3695 xxxxxx@rochester.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
