perhaps this is of lesser importance to our business of submitting
proposals but, think of all the trees we're saving in the process.
And the costs of all that paper and FedEx charges.

terri

On Mar 2, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Robert Beattie wrote:

> Robert Bloomberg asks a good question below.  Without question, I
> am still happy with "where we are going."  We are not there yet.
> It's been only a year.  The prior paper system evolved over 40
> years. For me, at least, since I helped a professor prepare a
> proposal: typing, copying on a ditto machine, and hand carrying
> from Chicago to DC.  I look forward to getting to the new place.
>
> The great situation is not that a few of us are having a few
> problems, but that all of us are actually getting many proposals to
> sponsors with not much effort.  Just last year we had stacks of
> copies of paper proposals, piled high around the office, boxes to
> pack, fedex labels to make, PI's and staff coming and going,
> picking up and delivering at the last minute.  The goal of
> Grants.gov must be valued and worth a couple years of hassle to get
> it right.
> One Form, One System, One Portal
>
> It's not the agencies like NIH that we need to be critical of, or
> even DOJ and DoEd and DOD (who are trying)  but those who are
> dragging their bureaucratic feet -- not making it mandatory or
> allowing their old systems or still asking for paper.
>
>
> Bob
> xxxxxx@umich.edu
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Bloomberg, Robert wrote:
>
> There was a discussion on this list a few days or so ago about
> whether grants.gov was a positive or a negative.  After reading all
> the emails today about errors, fixes, warnings, re-submissions,
> etc, I wonder what people think about that prior discussion.  Any
> minds changed either way?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On
> Behalf
> Of Bonnie Kwit
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:09 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] do errors self-correct?
>
>
> My EIN was a warning not an error once, and the other time it was
> an error.
> I found that in both cases I needed to eliminate the A1 at the
> end.  Also,
> you shouldn't use the "-" 38-XXXXXXX.  That was something else that
> hadn't
> been affected before but now seems to be causing warnings.
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie Kwit
> Grants & Contracts Officer
> Oakland University
> 544 O'Dowd Hall
> (248) 370-4116
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf Of
> Robert Beattie
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:52 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: [RESADM-L] do errors self-correct?
>
> I do not think the system is  self-correcting.  If something is an
> error the first time, if you make no change, it will be an error
> every other time.
>
> I may be wrong.  Does anyone have an example of a error not being
> fixed but resubmitted and then not being an error?
>
> My experience is such that I recommend  errors be fixed.
>
> Angela, what happened the 4th time you submitted?  That is how did
> you get the EIN to be accepted
>
> Bob
> xxxxxx@umich.edu
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Angela Willis wrote:
>
> I will put my two cents in for complaints.  The problem that we
> experienced is our EIN #.  Even though it was 9 digits, Commons saw
> it as not being long enough.
>
> We submitted it three times and still the same thing error came up,
> among other things.
>
>
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