Re: Is project outside the US? Karen Scheboth 06 Dec 2006 17:44 EST
Since our grants cover 240+ consortium agreements, we attach a list of districts where our consortiums are located but state that all areas of the US are affected. It's the best we can do for what they ask. Karen A. Scheboth,MS, CRA Director, Office of Sponsored Programs CureSearch, National Childhood Cancer Foundation - 440 E.Huntington Drive, Suite 402 Arcadia, CA 91066-6012 Phone (626) 241-1681 Facsimile (626) 447-6359 xxxxxx@CureSearch.org -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beattie Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:23 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is project outside the US? I do not think the capability to attach a list of additional Congressional Districts necessarily relates to the number affected districts, in the sense that the research will have some impact on those districts, any more than if could be for noting where the research is being done. In an NIH program project, there might be a dozen universities involved, each doing research in a specific district. In another context, a project might be setting up a clinic to administer some procedure in a number of districts, but all the management of the project is in only one district. So, does affected mean where the project is located (managed) or where it is being done (work is being done there) or where it will have impact (the outcome with affect the district)? Do universities with a project at a branch campus use the main campus (whose DUNS number is used) as the Applicant District, and the branch as the Project? Bob xxxxxx@umich.edu On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Kennedy, Jenifer wrote: 14b is for affected districts, which is why the guidelines state "attach an additional list of Project Congressional Districts, if needed". Jenifer R. Kennedy Interim Director Grants and Sponsored Research Austin Peay State University (p) 931-221-7881; (f) 931-221-7304 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Juile Edgerton Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:54 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is project outside the US? Hi, my feeling is that they want to know where the project is located Julie -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beattie Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is project outside the US? For sure, 14a. That is "Congressional District - Applicant" but 14b refers to Congressional District - Project so which of my options applies: where the project is located, where work is being done, or districts affected by the project. Bob xxxxxx@umich.edu On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Juile Edgerton wrote: Hi, from what I recall, the information for line 14 is the information of where the University applying for the grant is located. Julie -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beattie Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:27 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is project outside the US? I have always wondered what this field (14b) is used for. It seems that this should be the districts where the project is being done. Yet, the text from the NIH Guide, presented below uses the term "If all districts are _affected_ , enter all" So does this mean where the project is done or what districts are affected. How is this, then, different from - Item 12 Areas Affected? Does NIH send notes to the representatives in whose districts are indicated? Do representatives ask what projects are in their districts. I can see this as very important to non-academic grants. If US-all, do they send message to all representatives? Can a project even ever be US-all. Does this mean the project is being done in every congressional district in the US or that affects every such district. In either case that is a big project. Does there need to be staff working in each district? We have always thought this item referred to where the project was being done, but now, upon careful reading, wonder if it means affected? If a program project had multiple sites, then we would list all of those sites, expanding into Item 21 if needed. For the question at hand, I would indicate "world" in Item 12. If we are to believe that Item 14b is also area affected, then I would put US-all in 14b and 00-000 in 21. Perhaps some one is reading this who knows if 14b refers to where the project is located, where work is being done, or districts affected by the project. from NIH Guide: 14. Congressional District Applicant and Congressional District Project Congressional District - Applicant: Enter the Congressional District in the format: 2 character State Abbreviation - 3 character District Number. Examples: CA-005 for California's 5th district, CA-012 for California's 12th district. If outside the U.S., enter 00-0000. To locate your congressional district, visit the Grants.gov web site. Congressional District - Project: Enter the Congressional District in the format: 2 character State Abbreviation - 3 character District Number. Examples: CA-005 for California's 5th district, CA-012 for California's 12th district. If all districts in a state are affected, enter "all" for the district number. Example: MD-all for all congressional districts in Maryland. If nationwide (all districts in all states), enter US-all. If the program/project is outside the U.S., enter 00-0000. To locate your congressional district, visit the Grants.gov web site. Attach an additional list of Project Congressional Districts on page 2 (Item 21), if needed. I also now just notice that 12 explanation says: "12. Areas Affected by Project (Cities, Counties, States, Etc.) List only the largest political entities affected by the project (for example, state, counties, cities). (NIH) Enter "N/A" for not applicable." Does this mean the generic entites, for example states, or counties, or cities or does this mean specific entites, for example, Michigan, Washentaw or Detroit It seems to mean the first, as those are the examples given. Anyone know what is meant by this item? If it were to mean the former, would not the text read "Places Affected by Project" Again, for NIH, most projects will be N/A as they are basic science to improve health of people in the world. Is "world" an acceptable response? Bob xxxxxx@umich.edu On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Susan Greene wrote: RE: SF424 R&R cover page, box 14b Scenario: --Project affects the US and world --only part of the project takes place outside US; it has a foreign sub on it Question: Should box 14b be "00-0000"? or "US-all" with an attachment to include "00-000"? or Is "00-000" only used if entire project takes place outside the US? Page I-41 of Version 2a SF424 instructions are unclear. Thanks for your input! Susan -- Susan A. 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