Re: Is project outside the US? Robert Beattie 06 Dec 2006 17:22 EST

I do not think the capability to attach a list of additional
Congressional Districts necessarily relates to the number affected
districts, in the sense that the research will have some impact on
those districts, any more than if could be for noting where the
research is being done.  In an NIH program project, there might be a
dozen universities involved, each doing research in a specific
district.  In another context, a project might be setting up a clinic
to administer some procedure in a number of districts, but all the
management of the project is in only one district.

So, does affected mean where the project is located (managed) or
where it is being done (work is being done there) or where it will
have impact (the outcome with affect the district)?

Do universities with a project at a branch campus use the main campus
(whose DUNS number is used) as the Applicant District, and the branch
as the Project?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Kennedy, Jenifer wrote:

14b is for affected districts, which is why the guidelines state "attach
an additional list of Project Congressional Districts, if needed".

Jenifer R. Kennedy
Interim Director
Grants and Sponsored Research
Austin Peay State University
(p) 931-221-7881; (f) 931-221-7304

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Hi, my feeling is that they want to know where the project is located

Julie

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For sure, 14a.  That is "Congressional District - Applicant"
but 14b refers to Congressional District - Project
so which of my options applies:
where the project is located,
where work is being done, or
districts affected by the project.

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Juile Edgerton wrote:

Hi, from what I recall, the information for line 14 is the
information of
where the University applying for the grant is located.

Julie

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I have always wondered what this field (14b) is used for.  It seems
that this should be the districts where the project is being done.
Yet, the text from the NIH Guide, presented below uses the term "If
all districts are _affected_ , enter all"  So does this mean where
the project is done or what districts are affected.  How is this,
then, different from  - Item 12 Areas Affected?

Does NIH send notes to the representatives in whose districts are
indicated?  Do representatives ask what projects are in their
districts.  I can see this as very important to non-academic grants.
If  US-all, do they send message to all representatives?  Can a
project even ever be US-all.  Does this mean the project is being
done in every congressional district in the US or that affects every
such district.  In either case that is a big project.  Does there
need to be staff working in each district?

We have always thought this item referred to where the project was
being done, but now, upon careful reading, wonder if it means
affected?  If a program project had multiple sites, then we would
list all of those sites, expanding into Item 21 if needed.

For the question at hand, I would indicate "world" in Item 12.  If we
are to believe that Item 14b is also area affected, then I would put
US-all in 14b and 00-000 in 21.

Perhaps some one is reading this who knows if 14b refers to
where the project is located,
where work is being done, or
districts affected by the project.

from NIH Guide:
14.            Congressional District Applicant and Congressional
District Project
Congressional District - Applicant: Enter the Congressional District
in the format: 2 character State Abbreviation - 3 character District
Number. Examples: CA-005 for California's 5th district, CA-012 for
California's 12th district.
If outside the U.S., enter 00-0000.
To locate your congressional district, visit the Grants.gov web site.

Congressional District - Project: Enter the Congressional District in
the format: 2 character State Abbreviation - 3 character District
Number. Examples: CA-005 for California's 5th district, CA-012 for
California's 12th district.
If all districts in a state are affected, enter "all" for the
district number. Example: MD-all for all congressional districts in
Maryland.
If nationwide (all districts in all states), enter US-all.
If the program/project is outside the U.S., enter 00-0000.
To locate your congressional district, visit the Grants.gov web site.
Attach an additional list of Project Congressional Districts on page
2 (Item 21), if needed.

I also now just notice that 12 explanation says:

"12. Areas Affected by Project (Cities, Counties, States, Etc.)
List only the largest political entities affected by the project (for
example, state, counties, cities).
(NIH) Enter "N/A" for not applicable."

Does this mean the generic entites, for example states, or counties,
or cities
or does this mean specific entites, for example, Michigan, Washentaw
or Detroit

It seems to mean the first, as those are the examples given.  Anyone
know what is meant by this item?  If it were to mean the former,
would not the text read "Places Affected by Project"  Again, for NIH,
most projects will be N/A as they are basic science to improve health
of people in the world.  Is "world" an acceptable response?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Susan Greene wrote:

RE:  SF424 R&R cover page, box 14b

Scenario:
--Project affects the US and world
--only part of the project takes place outside US; it has a foreign
sub on it

Question:
Should box 14b be "00-0000"? or "US-all" with an attachment to
include "00-000"?
or
Is "00-000" only used if entire project takes place outside the US?

Page I-41 of Version 2a SF424 instructions are unclear.  Thanks for
your input!

Susan
--
Susan A. Greene, CRA, Grants & Contracts Administrator,
Medical University of South Carolina, Research & Sponsored Programs,
19 Hagood Ave., Suite 606 (express), Mailbox 250808 (U.S. Postal),
Charleston, SC  29425-0808 (express, use, 29425), PH:  843-792-2040,
FX:  843-792-6447

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