Re: Effort on a project Elsa Nadler 05 Oct 2006 08:47 EST
Greetings, This is convoluted. But first, the lawyer's interpretation is correct. He is working on the project at another university (where he has some kind of appointment) and that work is part of his appointment at University X and has nothing to do with the national lab, so his time on it is purely his time as a faculty member at University X and his percentage time at the national lab is still 100%... Look at it as if he were doing repairs on his house on his own time; it has nothing to do with the national lab or his time there. NSF is rather specific about NOT using cost-sharing. It is not clear what kind of appointment he has at University X, but his time/whatever on the grant application should be some percentage of that, not his national lab time. Is he adjunct and unpaid there? The venue of the actual work can be anywhere. Does the national lab have equipment and facilities that University X does not have and that are essential to the project? It is conceivable that the grant, if awarded, should or could reimburse the national lab for use of laboratory space and facilities (if that is legally possible). Am I throwing a monkey wrench into the equation? Also, the national lab director should probably provide some kind of approval for all this to occur. The fly in the ointment is being sure that he does NOT use is national lab TIME to work on the project for University X... Does this help or hinder? Elsa Nadler Elsa G. Nadler, EdD Grants Manager Department of Community Medicine 1 Medical Center Drive PO Box 9190 West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506-9190 Tel: 304/293-3546 Fax: 304/293-6685 >>> Carolyn Elliott-Farino <xxxxxx@KENNESAW.EDU> 10/5/2006 9:27 AM >>> Why is he cost sharing on an NSF proposal? It's not usually required, nor even encouraged. I don't know if the lawyer is correct, but my instincts mirror yours * how can work done at your institution have nothing to do with you? If the work were done at the university on a consultant basis, maybe, but if they're using your facilities, you're involved. I think. Somehow. Aren't you? >>> xxxxxx@BNL.GOV 10/4/2006 3:50:41 PM >>> Hi, everyone. I have a 100% scientist who is using his joint appointment at a local university to process an NSF grant application. The award will remain at the university as we are not eligible for NSF funds since we're a national laboratory. He wants to put down cost-shared effort on the application. Under U.S. Dept of Energy regulations (which governs us), an employee is not permitted to cost share. Question: If the PI wants to put down unreimbursed effort on the award held by the local university, how do we manage his effort here at the lab? My first inclination is that he would have to reduce his effort here in order to keep his total effort to 100%. In speaking with our lawyers, the PI learned that what he does at the other institution has nothing to do with us. The project will take place 100% at our facility. Is the lawyer's interpretation correct? It just doesn't sit well with me.... thanks for your input. Kris Kristina Duryea Departmental Grants Administrator Brookhaven National Laboratory Biology Department, Bldg. 463 Upton, NY 11973-5000 631-344-7850 voice 631-344-6398 fax xxxxxx@BNL.gov ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================