I should have more faith.

At 10:03 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
>NIH staff are working  to revise the rights and roles management of
>the eRA Commons to allow people to have various rights appropriate to
>their university role.  In this arrangement, each of the various
>Commons functions can be given out to people in units with a
>hierarchy of which PI info is available.  For example, a department
>administrator can be given rights to view status (including the image
>of applications) of people in that department, school level staff, to
>view information on PI's in that school, etc.  This is being called
>the Virtual Organization Layer/Organizational Hierarchies feature.
>It is supposed to be available for some testing in a few weeks.  I am
>sure this would have been done much sooner but as we know, NIH staff
>were sidetracked by having to deal with Grants.gov and Multiple PI
>issues.
>
>This effort by NIH probably needs no further discussion at the FDP
>meeting.  Now is the time for testing the feature with a view to
>quick implementation.
>
>In the meantime, why not keep a copy of the application that is
>submitted to NIH.  That version will not have the formatting of the
>image in the NIH Commmons, but in all other respects is the same.
>
>Bob
>xxxxxx@umich.edu
>
>
>
>
>On Sep 6, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Richard E. Brandt wrote:
>
>Good day,
>
>
>I’m a department administrator in a large department at Michigan
>State University, who was formerly a SO in the Central
>Administration. I have been given AO status by the Central
>Administration so I may better support the investigators associated
>with our Department. It would be very useful, to have access to the
>PDF of the latest application/eSNAP that resides on the Status page
>of Investigators within the Commons.
>
>
>I assist the Investigator with the skeleton of the package, i.e. the
>face page, budgets, checklist, all the administrative data I can
>assist with. We then take that skeleton with an abstract and march it
>around Campus for the necessary signatures. And I would like to say I
>am a major fan of the Grants.gov/Puredge product; I’m able to enter
>all the necessary administrative data then either up load the science
>for the investigator or pass the packet to them to upload the
>science. But in either case I’m left with either just a skeleton or
>just the disjointed Puredge documents.
>
>
>Now I realize that the Federal regulations only require the
>University to maintain one copy of the application on file and that
>is done in our Central Office, but in order to give these
>applications, especially the ones that are awarded, the level of
>support, review, and monitoring that the tax payers and the
>University deserve (and Federal Regulations require), I need to have
>access to the entire document.
>
>
>And Yes I can go to the central office and make a copy of theirs; my
>Central office is only about ½ a mile away. Or I could ask the
>investigator for a full copy and ask and ask until the Investigator
>starts to avoid me in the hallway; which is really not a useful
>outcome. Or if Commons would agree to give AO’s access to the PDF
>that is available to SO’s on the Status page; I could download the
>file store it, review it as needed and get on with all the other
>tasks I need to accomplish.
>
>
>Thank you for your consideration.
>
>
>I have cc’d this to the Research Admin list serve, because I know
>that members from the FDP schools are listening in, and I would very
>much appreciate, if time permits, if this access might be included in
>the discussion agenda of the upcoming meeting.
>
>
>Thank you,
>
>
>Richard
>
>
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>
>Richard E. Brandt
>
>Financial/Research Administrator
>
>Department of Physiology
>
>Michigan State University
>
>517 355-6475 x1116
>
>xxxxxx@msu.edu
>
>
>
>
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