Re: One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal Bonnie Kwit 30 Jun 2006 11:04 EST
At least the faculty member had an appointment at both institutions. I could see that working. Bonnie Kwit Grants & Contracts Officer Oakland University 544 O'Dowd Hall (248) 370-4116 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Wilson, Thomas Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:30 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal I agree it sounds crazy, but I have had this some type of situation at a former institution. We executed a subaward with the collaborating institution and the faculty member had an appointment at both institutions and got paid for his time contributed at both institutions. He was supervising the work being done by his lab at each institution and had effort at each institution. We needed to do a sub anyhow since there were other salaries and expenses incurred at the collaborating institution. Crazy, but it worked well! Tom Thomas E. Wilson Director, Sponsored Projects City of Hope National Medical Center and Beckman Research Institute 1500 East Duarte Road Duarte, CA 91010-3000 Tel: 626-301-8438 Fax: 626-301-8843 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Kwit Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal No. She should be paid by her own organization. Otherwise, the collaborating organization would have to have her as a subcontract or consultant in order to pay her. Sounds crazy to me! Bonnie Kwit Grants & Contracts Officer Oakland University 544 O'Dowd Hall (248) 370-4116 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Donna Berger Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:43 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal Dear REASAMers, I need to deal with an issue in the morning and need your input on two issues: 1) We have a PI doing a collaborative NSF proposal. She wants to name herself as PI for both the lead organization and the non-lead collaborating institution where she will be spending a portion of her time on this research project. Would your university allow her to be named as PI for both organizations? 2) This PI is a faculty member at the lead institution (our college), but since she will do a substantial part of her research at the collaborating institution, she wants to budget for her time and effort on the non-lead institution's budget and be paid by them, rather than budget her time on our budget and be paid by us. In other words, she wants to have the non-lead institution recoup her salary money on the rate of pay that they would assign to her and pay her directly with NSF funds, rather be paid through us, her primary place of employment. Would any of your institutions entertain such an arrangement? Any input you could give me would be much appreciated. As an aside, from her dean's perspective, this is extra summer work and she would approve it as a summer work assignment. I see all kinds of issues that would argue against such an arrangement on a federal proposal, but there are conflicting views on this. I really would like to see this proposal happen, but not at the risk of putting the institution in a precarious position. Thank you for any input you can give. 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