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Re: AOR, SO, etc Robert Beattie 22 Jun 2006 11:14 EST

The main problem that will occur with NIH is in the validation
stage.  In the last section of the 424, is the Provost listed as the
Authorized Representative (Section 19)?  If so, then that person will
receive the messages that the proposal is in the commons or not (has
errors). You will not directly know what happens.  You cannot even
check status in the Commons.  If the PI wants to reject the
application, then the Provost will need to sign into the Commons and
do this.

Why not get yourself made an SO.  Not for the purpose of authorizing
applications but for other business processes that you are allowed to
do.  Your university rules govern what things you can do, not the NIH
naming system.  Until NIH comes out with a better way to manage roles
and rights, then you should take the rights of an SO, although you do
not need to exercise all of them.  You might at least put your email
in section 19.

A minor problem might occur because the name of the person in Section
19 is not the name of the person "signing" the application.  Note
that the last line of Section 19 is Signature of person named in that
section. The name of the AOR who submits the application will appear
here when the proposal reaches the sponsor.   I have given all of our
AOR's the "name" of the person whose name we put in Section 19.  Thus
any of our grants officers who are authorized to submit via
Grants.gov (but not necessarily eligible by University rules to
authorize submission of a proposal; these are two different rights)
will do so in the name of the person who is authorized to approve an
application.  In other words, the person named in section 19 is the
University official who can approval proposals and has "signed off"
for the proposal according to University rules, but others can send
(submit) the proposal on behalf of that official.  To cut down on
dissonance for the grants agency, the "name" of the person sending
the application is the same as the person in section 19.

Hope this helps.

Bob
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Robert Beattie
UMich Grants.gov Liaison
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On Jun 22, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Amy Myerson wrote:

Hi,

I am the designated person who oversees grants at my university.
Prior to submission, all proposals must go through a routing process
and ultimately the Provost must sign off. With that said, I am the
person responsible for submitting proposals to the funder. I have a
Grants.gov application going out next week and I want to try to
prevent as many problems as possible. My question...

According to Grants.gov I am an AOR.
According to eRA Commons I am an AA. (The Provost is the SO.)

Is this a problem?

Thanks,
Amy
______________________________________________________
Amy S. Myerson
Assistant Director for Grants and Contracts
University of Hartford
Office of Institutional Partnerships and Sponsored Research
860.768.2429 ph
860.768.4244 fax
xxxxxx@hartford.edu
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