Re: S2S report on grants.gov Carol Lee 08 Jun 2006 14:27 EST
QUOTE: "I am curious to know what other capabilities folks think an S2S program should have?" A sense of humor! At 03:10 PM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote: >I have been testing the Cayuse 424 S2S program and I used it to >submit 3 NIH applications through Grants.gov. 2 R21's and 1 R03 >were prepared using the program. (I did an X02 last month). This >was such an easy activity compared to the 48 Pure Edge submissions >we also did. > >The program runs on a server so a number of different people can work >on the same file. In all cases there was a mix of Macs and Windows >machines between the faculty, other research team members, and >department administrative people. I submitted from a Mac with no >need for Citrix. Because this was on server, an electronic a >review process is possible. > >The program keeps track of Grants.gov AND NIH errors so we know >before submitting that there would be nothing wrong. There was >nothing wrong, except for that useless Warning that there are between >15 and 18 pages in the Research Plan. We knew prior to submission >that there were the appropriate number of pages, however. > >The program allows a full printing of the application prior to >submission that looks much like the NIH commons version, but without >table of contents. This was very welcome to those in the process who >are not yet "paperless." The program allows us to create >institutional profile and PI profiles thus all the forms are pre- >populated. This is unlike Pure Edge which requires all data to be >reentered with every application. > >All the users were very happy with how the system worked. None had >used PureEdge so could not compare except that they had attended >various classes I did on how to use PureEdge. So they know what to >expect from PE and were anxious not to use it. > >Last month there was discussion among listserv members about the >value of an S2S approach vs just using Pure Edge. I believe the >following are capabilities that a good S2S program should have >compared to PureEdge: >1. easy multi platform use, including sharing access to an >application between Mac, Windows and others, for the PI and >administrative staff >2. pre-population of standard institutional data in the various >forms and linking to PI profile information >3. cross university access to an application file for electronic >routing and approval >4. ability to save an application in an easily readable format -- >not PureEdge -- for later reading, printing, and using in the award >process >5. related to 1, easy access to the application by on campus >colleagues and others not on site for review and comments >6. error checking, both Grants.gov and sponsor. >7. assistance in creating and loading text files in a proper format > >(this does not include any aspects that a system might have for >budget preparation and linkage to campus data such as salaries and >current and pending support) > >I am curious to know what other capabilities folks think an S2S >program should have? > >Bob >xxxxxx@umich.edu > >On Jun 8, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Charlie Hathaway wrote: > >>Over the past 2 weeks we have seen many navigating the NIH June 1 >>deadline >>for R21/R03 and heard about many errors, warnings, system failures, >>system >>slowdowns, etc. I assume that most of the people contributing these >>battle stories were using PureEdge to submit. >> >>Question: did anyone using a S2S mode of proposal prep and >>transmission >>(on-site or via service provider) encounter problems? I am not so >>much >>interested in knowing which S2S product/service you used as I am very >>curious about the SPECIFIC warnings and errors that you may have >>encountered or avoided. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Charlie Hathaway >> >> >>====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== >Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================