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Re: S2S report on grants.gov Carol Lee 08 Jun 2006 14:27 EST

QUOTE: "I am curious to know what other capabilities folks think an S2S
program should have?"

A sense of humor!

At 03:10 PM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>I have been testing the Cayuse 424 S2S program and I used it to
>submit 3 NIH applications through Grants.gov.   2 R21's and 1 R03
>were prepared using the program.  (I did an X02 last month).  This
>was such an easy activity compared to  the 48 Pure Edge submissions
>we also did.
>
>The program runs on a server so a number of different people can work
>on the same file.  In all cases there was a mix of Macs and Windows
>machines between the faculty, other research team members, and
>department administrative people.  I submitted from a Mac with no
>need for Citrix.    Because this was on server, an electronic a
>review process is possible.
>
>The program keeps track of Grants.gov  AND  NIH errors so we know
>before submitting that there would be nothing wrong.  There was
>nothing wrong, except for that useless Warning that there are between
>15 and 18 pages in the Research Plan.  We knew prior to submission
>that there were the appropriate number of pages, however.
>
>The program allows a full printing of the application prior to
>submission that looks much like the NIH commons version, but without
>table of contents.  This was very welcome to those in the process who
>are not yet "paperless."   The program allows us to create
>institutional profile and PI profiles thus all the forms are pre-
>populated.  This is unlike Pure Edge which requires all data to be
>reentered with every application.
>
>All the users were very happy with how the system worked.  None had
>used PureEdge so could not compare except that they had attended
>various classes I did  on how to use PureEdge.   So they know what to
>expect from PE and were anxious not to use it.
>
>Last month there was discussion among listserv members about the
>value of an S2S approach vs just using Pure Edge.  I believe the
>following are capabilities that a  good S2S program should have
>compared to PureEdge:
>1.  easy  multi platform use, including sharing access to an
>application between Mac, Windows and others, for the PI and
>administrative staff
>2.  pre-population of  standard institutional data in the various
>forms and linking to PI profile information
>3.  cross university access  to an application file for electronic
>routing and approval
>4.  ability to save an application in an easily readable format --
>not PureEdge -- for later reading, printing,  and using in the award
>process
>5.  related to 1, easy access to the application by on campus
>colleagues and others not on site for review and comments
>6.  error checking, both Grants.gov and sponsor.
>7.  assistance in creating and loading text files in a proper format
>
>(this does not include any aspects that a system might have for
>budget preparation and linkage to campus data such as salaries and
>current and pending support)
>
>I am curious to know what other capabilities folks think an S2S
>program should have?
>
>Bob
>xxxxxx@umich.edu
>
>On Jun 8, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Charlie Hathaway wrote:
>
>>Over the past 2 weeks we have seen many navigating the NIH June 1
>>deadline
>>for R21/R03 and heard about many errors, warnings, system failures,
>>system
>>slowdowns, etc.  I assume that most of the people contributing these
>>battle stories were using PureEdge to submit.
>>
>>Question: did anyone using a S2S mode of proposal prep and
>>transmission
>>(on-site or via service provider) encounter problems?  I am not so
>>much
>>interested in knowing which S2S product/service you used as I am very
>>curious about the SPECIFIC warnings and errors that you may have
>>encountered or avoided.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Charlie Hathaway
>>
>>
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