I have been testing the Cayuse 424 S2S program and I used it to
submit 3 NIH applications through Grants.gov.   2 R21's and 1 R03
were prepared using the program.  (I did an X02 last month).  This
was such an easy activity compared to  the 48 Pure Edge submissions
we also did.

The program runs on a server so a number of different people can work
on the same file.  In all cases there was a mix of Macs and Windows
machines between the faculty, other research team members, and
department administrative people.  I submitted from a Mac with no
need for Citrix.    Because this was on server, an electronic a
review process is possible.

The program keeps track of Grants.gov  AND  NIH errors so we know
before submitting that there would be nothing wrong.  There was
nothing wrong, except for that useless Warning that there are between
15 and 18 pages in the Research Plan.  We knew prior to submission
that there were the appropriate number of pages, however.

The program allows a full printing of the application prior to
submission that looks much like the NIH commons version, but without
table of contents.  This was very welcome to those in the process who
are not yet "paperless."   The program allows us to create
institutional profile and PI profiles thus all the forms are pre-
populated.  This is unlike Pure Edge which requires all data to be
reentered with every application.

All the users were very happy with how the system worked.  None had
used PureEdge so could not compare except that they had attended
various classes I did  on how to use PureEdge.   So they know what to
expect from PE and were anxious not to use it.

Last month there was discussion among listserv members about the
value of an S2S approach vs just using Pure Edge.  I believe the
following are capabilities that a  good S2S program should have
compared to PureEdge:
1.  easy  multi platform use, including sharing access to an
application between Mac, Windows and others, for the PI and
administrative staff
2.  pre-population of  standard institutional data in the various
forms and linking to PI profile information
3.  cross university access  to an application file for electronic
routing and approval
4.  ability to save an application in an easily readable format --
not PureEdge -- for later reading, printing,  and using in the award
process
5.  related to 1, easy access to the application by on campus
colleagues and others not on site for review and comments
6.  error checking, both Grants.gov and sponsor.
7.  assistance in creating and loading text files in a proper format

(this does not include any aspects that a system might have for
budget preparation and linkage to campus data such as salaries and
current and pending support)

I am curious to know what other capabilities folks think an S2S
program should have?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Jun 8, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Charlie Hathaway wrote:

> Over the past 2 weeks we have seen many navigating the NIH June 1
> deadline
> for R21/R03 and heard about many errors, warnings, system failures,
> system
> slowdowns, etc.  I assume that most of the people contributing these
> battle stories were using PureEdge to submit.
>
> Question: did anyone using a S2S mode of proposal prep and
> transmission
> (on-site or via service provider) encounter problems?  I am not so
> much
> interested in knowing which S2S product/service you used as I am very
> curious about the SPECIFIC warnings and errors that you may have
> encountered or avoided.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Charlie Hathaway
>
>
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