You need to make an institutional decision.  What constitutes
"approving" and what does "submitting" mean.

If you decide these two actions are the same thing, then your VP and
CFO must do the submission.  You might consider  these actions as two
different processes.  Do you have some sort of internal routing form
or other paper that is signed by the Pi and other officials?  If so
then you might think of the signing of that document as the
"approving" an application.  Then the submitting is merely a
transmission of the application to the agency; putting it in the
mail, so to speak.

Grant making agencies and Grants.gov do not really understand how
colleges operate, that we have our own business rules and that people
have certain roles and rights within the organization.  The VP and
CFO have the approval right and grants office staff can have the
submission right.  The lines of authority stay as they are now.
There is a written record of what has happened.  The appropriate
officials have approved the application on behalf of the institution.
You submit the application on behalf of the institution.

Regarding the CCR:  How many times at Marist College will the EbizPOC
need to grant AOR rights to people in the grants office, compared to
the number of times other financial actions must be taken?  Has there
been any problem with the Controller giving AOR rights to people who
need it?  Given that the CCR has many functions and giving AOR status
is but one small such function, I would not worry about where it
resides as long as there is no negative impact on submission.

Bob
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Robert Beattie
UMichigan Grants.gov Liason
xxxxxx@umich.edu  936-1283
Learn more about grants.gov @ UMICH
http://www.research.umich.edu/era/grantsgov/

On May 9, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Donna Berger wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm hoping you can give me some input on a couple of issues. With the
change to grants.gov, the submitter of the grant application is the
signator. First question:
Have any of you had to change who the AOR is at your institution
because of
this change and if so, how was it handled?   Our Executive VP and CFO
have
traditionally been the signators on grant applications and my office
(pre-award) only submitted the application.  It is now being
suggested that
I sign and submit.  It would be much easier for us, but I think it would
also necessitate a change in line of authority. Am I correct in assuming
this?

Second question: Who is the e-business point of contact for your
institution that assigns permissions for the AOR designations, etc.?  My
office always did this for ERA commons and Fastlane. However, with
grants.gov, the  assignment went to our post-award administrator and was
recently changed to our conptroller.  Our new post-award
administrator and
I think that my office should take it over.  How is this handled at your
institution? Thanks in advance for any feedback you can give me.

Donna Berger, Ph.D.
Coordinator, Academic Grants
Marist College
Phone: 845-575-3670

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