Just my opinion here, but I do not believe that this expense is justifiable. I can't think of very many companies in industry that would make this allowance for an employee. I think that all of us could find some reason to argue that we have a "need" for first class due to being tall, overweight, bad back, etc. If a special allowance is made, I think business class would be easier to justify than first class, but even this is questionable in my opinion. By the way, some airlines are beginning to sell seats in coach with more legroom - might be a new trend. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187819,00.html Kevin _______________________________________________ Kevin Moore, Manager Proposal Services College of Engineering, Architecture and Technology 201 Advanced Technology Research Center Stillwater, OK 74078 E-mail: xxxxxx@okstate.edu Phone: 405-744-9498 Fax: 405-744-3189 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Witt, Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:29 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Traveling first class for very tall individuals You could also consider paying the cost of the coach airfare to the grant and the first class difference to institutional funds. Carolyn W. Witt, MEd, MBA Director of Grants and Contracts Van Andel Institute 333 Bostwick Ave., NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503 Phone: (616) 234-5542 Fax: (616) 234-5543 E-mail: xxxxxx@vai.org -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Jennifer Shambrook Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:11 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Traveling first class for very tall individuals That is certainly very tall. The OMB circs make provisions for folks that are in unusual circumstances, and I would count this as one. I'd certainly document my reason for my decision AND going forward if you put this person on a grant for travel, I'd put it in the budget justification for further documentation. >>> xxxxxx@ALASKASEALIFE.ORG 03/21/06 05:42PM >>> 6'7" is what I've been told. -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Jennifer Shambrook Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:15 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Traveling first class for very tall individuals Just curious... how tall is very tall? >>> xxxxxx@ALASKASEALIFE.ORG 03/21/06 04:38PM >>> Here's a strange one. Does anyone have a travel policy that specifically provides for first class travel for very tall individuals? Or if documenting this on a "case by case basis" as required by the OMBs, what sort of documentation do you need? 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