It is not up to NIH/Grants.gov to establish business rules
for each university.  At the University of Michigan
faculty do not authorize the submission of proposals.  If
a university wants to make that its business policy it
can.  Usually it is university policy that a grants office
is designated its governing body or executive officers to
authorize proposal submission.

It might be possible to treat the actual submission of a
grants.gov application as merely the same as putting it in
a fedex box, once the grants office has actually signed
off on the application.  This would require the faculty to
provide the grants office with a copy of the pureedge file
in final format for review.  Once that is done, it seems
counter productive to return the file for the faculty
member to do the actual submission. Moreover, the
application in submitted format appears to the agency with
the faculty member's name as the official approver, not
someone in the grants office.  This makes it difficult for
the agency to know the application was in fact so
approved.  Also, the grants office gets out of the
verification loop.  Especially with NIH where the AOR/SO
get notified of any errors.  It is thus dangerous to the
PI to have no backup person also getting the error
messages.

Currently only NIH is doing online verification but
perhaps other agencies will see the advantage of this.
 Any know how NSF will do checking?

All in all, it seems inappropriate for faculty to be
submitting their own applications, but that is a decision
for each university to make.

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:13:51 -0500
 "Mortali, Jill M." <xxxxxx@HMS.HARVARD.EDU> wrote:
> I asked NIH policy this question and was told that it is
>not appropriate
> for faculty to perform the AOR role.
>
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>[mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
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> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:28 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: [RESADM-L] grants.gov AOR and faculty
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> Hello:
>
>
>
> I've been having a lot of faculty who wish to submit
>proposals through
> grants.gov sign up for AOR privileges.   At our
>institution we have
> designated AORs and they are not faculty.     Are any of
>you having
> similar problems with faculty?     What is your strategy
>to stop them
> from requesting this permission?
>
>
>
> Eleanor M. Cicinsky
>
> Director, PreAward Sponsored Projects Administration
>
> Temple University,  406 USB, 083-45
>
> 1601 N. Broad Street
>
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>
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>
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