Oh that was the simple part.  If your lead collaborator was a Laboratory, there was even a third set of instructions you had to do.  You had to do different budget forms to send to the Laboratory so they could get their proposal together and submit it through their ePMS system.  You couldn't use the same forms that Grants.gov used.  You had to use the DoE budget forms.  So there was three different submissions of the proposal.  And all three guidelines were not identical in pieces.  Each would give you a little piece of information on what to do.

The only thing that did go well with this proposal, is once I submitted to Grants.gov, I received my confirmation emails in a timely manner.

Tammy Custer
Cornell

At 05:18 PM 3/6/2006, Vonnie Perkins wrote:
>Can someone explain to me why on earth we had to convert all the apps
>that were due today to DOE to a PDF and then email it to DOE in addition
>to the Grants.gov submissions? I had 10 and this consumed my entire day.
>Why the double work????
>
>Vonnie Y. Perkins
>Electronic Research Administration
>Program Manager
>Office of Research Administration
>and Advancement
>3110B Lee Building
>University of Maryland, College Park
>Voice-301.405.4179
>Fax-301.314.9569
>xxxxxx@umd.edu
>
>>>> xxxxxx@OU.EDU 03/06/06 5:14 PM >>>
>I wish you well.  If heartburn is all you get, you'll be lucky.  The DOE
>collaborative submission due today has given me not only heartburn, but
>ulcers, high blood pressure, migraine headaches, and any other symptom
>that is "stress-induced"!!
>
>:-)
>Tena
>
>Tena Smith
>The University of Oklahoma
>731 Elm Avenue
>Norman, OK  73019-2115
>405.325.6140 or xxxxxx@ou.edu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
>Behalf Of Diane Schmitz
>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:41 PM
>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>Subject: [RESADM-L] DOE app on grants.gov
>
>Hi all --
>
>I'm helping prepare an application to the Department of Energy via
>grants.gov, due 3/21. While I've submitted a handful of applications
>through grants.gov, this one is giving me heartburn.
>
>Our PI is collaborating with another institution. The other instiution's
>
>PI will be the lead, and my faculty member will be co-PI. The guidelines
>
>say that each collaborator must submit a separate application, but they
>don't address how we indicate this is a collaboration or how DOE will
>link our two applications. The budget pages have checkboxes for primes
>and subawardees/collaborators, but don't define their terms or indicate
>whether we include the other university's budget. Of course I'll also
>email the program officer and helpdesk but I thought y'all could lend
>your insights as well.
>
>Ventingly yours,
>
>--
>Diane M. Schmitz
>Assistant Director, Pre-Award Administration
>Grant & Research Development
>Eastern Washington University
>Cheney WA 99004-2444
>Phone:  (509) 359-2517  * Fax:  (509) 359-6693
>
>http://www.ewu.edu/grants
>
>"Be humble, for you are made of earth. Be noble, for you are made of
>stars."
>     -Serbian proverb
>
>
>======================================================================
> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
>======================================================================
>
>
>======================================================================
> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
>======================================================================
>
>
>======================================================================
> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
>======================================================================

======================================================================
 Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
 subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
 via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
======================================================================