Re: policy regarding signatures on "pre-proposals"? Peter Koch 03 Mar 2006 17:00 EST
Penny: This is essentially our procedure as well. As far as enforcement, there really is no way for us to "catch it" if someone circumvents the requirement, other than if a full proposal is ultimately invited. At that point, we can opt not to allow submission. Pre-proposals or letters of intent do not count as "submissions" in any considerations I am aware of here. Peter C. Koch, MBA Assistant Vice President Sponsored Programs and Research Accounting Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center 3333 Burnet Avenue, TCHRF-3303, MLC 7030 Cincinnati, Ohio 45229-3039 Phone: (513) 636-4583 Fax: (513) 636-1392 E-mail: xxxxxx@cchmc.org >>> xxxxxx@CSUOHIO.EDU 03/03/06 3:58 PM >>> Penny: If the pre-proposal contains a detailed budget or if there are obligations of space, cost share, etc., then the PI is required to get formal approval before submission. Otherwise, we just request that the PI send us a courtesy copy. Katie. ************************************************************ Kathryn Watkins, M.Ed., CRA, Director Sponsored Programs and Research Cleveland State University 216-687-3630 / 216-687-9382 (fax) Penny J Miceli <Penny.J.Miceli. To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG xxxxxx@ND.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: [RESADM-L] policy regarding signatures on "pre-proposals"? Research Administration List <xxxxxx@HRINET .ORG> 03/03/2006 03:23 PM Please respond to Research Administration Discussion List Hi All, With more and more private foundations adopting a submission process that begins first with a pre-proposal (and full proposal to follow only by invitation), one of the Associate Deans within our College would like to know what other institutions do in terms of administrative requirements for "pre-proposal" submissions, particularly those for which the sponsor does not require an institutional signature. Although our institutional policy is that pre-proposals should be routing for approvals just like a full proposal, this often does not happen because PIs know the sponsor does not require an institutional signature. Does your institution require an administrative review/sign-off on pre-proposals (even if the sponsor does not)? If so, how do you induce your faculty to comply? I've noticed that if a faculty member is being held accountable for their number of grant submissions (because it is built into some sort of incentive structure) then they are more likely to comply with internal administrative processes since that is the only way to get the submission "on the books." What has worked for you all? Do your Deans count "pre-proposals" as fulfilling any requirements that might be placed on the faculty member to submit a certain number of grant applications (for example, to be eligible for a leave)? I've checked a few websites for other institutions and found a few written policies, but not many. If anyone is willing to share, I'd appreciate it. Feel free to email me personally, or the list. Thanks, Penny Penny J. Miceli, Ph.D. Assistant Director Institute for Scholarship in the Liberal Arts College of Arts & Letters University of Notre Dame 101 O'Shaughnessy Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556 Ph (574) 631-4264 Fax (574) 631-4295 email: xxxxxx@nd.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================