Penny:
This is essentially our procedure as well. As far as enforcement,
there really is no way for us to "catch it" if someone circumvents the
requirement, other than if a full proposal is ultimately invited. At
that point, we can opt not to allow submission. Pre-proposals or
letters of intent do not count as "submissions" in any considerations I
am aware of here.
Peter C. Koch, MBA
Assistant Vice President
Sponsored Programs and Research Accounting
Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center
3333 Burnet Avenue, TCHRF-3303, MLC 7030
Cincinnati, Ohio 45229-3039
Phone: (513) 636-4583
Fax: (513) 636-1392
E-mail: xxxxxx@cchmc.org
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Penny:
If the pre-proposal contains a detailed budget or if there are
obligations
of space, cost share, etc., then the PI is required to get formal
approval
before submission.
Otherwise, we just request that the PI send us a courtesy copy.
Katie.
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Kathryn Watkins, M.Ed., CRA, Director
Sponsored Programs and Research
Cleveland State University
216-687-3630 / 216-687-9382 (fax)
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Hi All,
With more and more private foundations adopting a submission process
that
begins first with a pre-proposal (and full proposal to follow only by
invitation), one of the Associate Deans within our College would like
to
know what other institutions do in terms of administrative requirements
for
"pre-proposal" submissions, particularly those for which the sponsor
does
not require an institutional signature. Although our institutional
policy
is that pre-proposals should be routing for approvals just like a full
proposal, this often does not happen because PIs know the sponsor does
not
require an institutional signature.
Does your institution require an administrative review/sign-off on
pre-proposals (even if the sponsor does not)? If so, how do you
induce
your faculty to comply? I've noticed that if a faculty member is
being
held accountable for their number of grant submissions (because it is
built
into some sort of incentive structure) then they are more likely to
comply
with internal administrative processes since that is the only way to
get
the submission "on the books." What has worked for you all? Do your
Deans
count "pre-proposals" as fulfilling any requirements that might be
placed
on the faculty member to submit a certain number of grant applications
(for
example, to be eligible for a leave)?
I've checked a few websites for other institutions and found a few
written
policies, but not many. If anyone is willing to share, I'd appreciate
it.
Feel free to email me personally, or the list.
Thanks,
Penny
Penny J. Miceli, Ph.D.
Assistant Director
Institute for Scholarship in the Liberal Arts
College of Arts & Letters
University of Notre Dame
101 O'Shaughnessy Hall
Notre Dame, IN 46556
Ph (574) 631-4264
Fax (574) 631-4295
email: xxxxxx@nd.edu
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