Lisa,

I am forwarding a number of these that may choose not to keep.  Thought
I would be conservative and send them for your review.  As suggested
below, there should be changes down the road that make our current
concerns moot.

Bob

Lynn Rollins wrote:

> Hi All - I've tried both of Craig's solutions and still can't make
> this work without an error message. I did get a call from NIH and they
> sent me the following information - I'm trying it now.
>
> *Thank you for taking my call.  I sent this e-mail message to my
> supervisor to get her advice.  I also found this in our files.
> Perhaps this will help
>
> For the Indirect Cost Rate (%) field in the budget form, you can only
> enter up to 2 numbers.  *
> **
> *NOTE: Grants.gov is working on a solution. Until one is implemented,
> the recommended workaround is to split the Indirect Cost Rate into 2
> lines on the budget form.*
> **
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
>
> >>> xxxxxx@CMICH.EDU 2/23/2006 10:36:37 am >>>
>
> I entered "40.00" in the IDC rate field and it worked fine.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
> * From: * Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]
> *On Behalf Of *Vicki Krell
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:21 AM
> *To:* xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal
>
>
>
> Not to beat a dead horse, but what did you do if, like ASU, you have a
> IDC rate that has a decimal in it - for example, ours is 49.5%. I
> thought, from a R13 I submitted last week to AHQR, that the IDC rate
> needs to be expressed as a decimal rather than a whole number, because
> I kept getting warnings that said that the rate was more than 1.
> However, the system (g.g) will only allow me to enter 2 numbers after
> a decimal (i.e. .49) - how did others handle something similar?
>
>
>
> */ Vicki /*
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Cathy Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:06 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal
>
>
>
> I received the same warning message and did the same thing that Craig
> did.
>
>
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
>
>
> Reynolds, Craig A. wrote:
>
>
>
>>All,
>
>>
>
>>This solution worked.  The proposal passed the Commons validation check.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Since the AREA guidelines direct us to enter the entire budget in Year
>
>>1, I have been ignoring the warning that "Direct cost requests are
>
>>limited to $150k a year for AREA grants. Applications that exceed this
>
>>limit may be delayed in the peer review process or rejected."  Are
>
>>others doing the same?
>
>>
>
>>Craig
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Reynolds, Craig A.
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:33 AM
>
>>To: 'Research Administration Discussion List'
>
>>Subject: RE: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal
>
>>
>
>>By the way, if it comes down to it, I am going to fudge the indirect
>
>>cost base down to the penny so that the calculation comes out to a whole
>
>>dollar value.
>
>>
>
>>Craig
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Reynolds, Craig A.
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:36 AM
>
>>To: 'Research Administration Discussion List'
>
>>Subject: RE: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal
>
>>
>
>>Jo,
>
>>
>
>>You're not alone!  I have encountered the same problem with one of my
>
>>AREA submissions (three others went through just fine), as have Bob
>
>>Chestnut at Eastern Illinois and Liz Lieberman from Wellesley .  Probably
>
>>others as well.  If anyone gets some advice from the Commons Help Desk
>
>>that seems to work, please share with the rest of us.
>
>>
>
>>I'm still waiting for a call back from the Help Desk.
>
>>
>
>>Craig
>
>>
>
>>--
>
>>Craig Reynolds / Office of Research & Sponsored Programs /
>
>> Central Michigan University / Foust 251 / Mount Pleasant , MI 48859 /
>
>>T: 989.774.3859 / F: 989.774.3439 / E: xxxxxx@cmich.edu
>
>>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
>
>>Behalf Of Jo Harris
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:59 AM
>
>>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>
>>Subject: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal
>
>>
>
>>Help with the following problem will be greatly appreciated!  We have
>
>>been trying since Friday to submit proposals to the NIH AREA grant
>
>>program.  The consistent error message says:  Indirect Cost Funds
>
>>Requested for budget year 1 must equal the product of Indirect Cost Rate
>
>>
>
>>and Indirect Cost Base for the same year-Error."  To complete the PHS
>
>>398 Modular Budget form, we filled in the section for Budget Period 1,
>
>>with the Direct Costs being the total modular amount requested for the
>
>>entire period of the project; and then we completed the Indirect Costs
>
>>section by multiplying our Salary & Wages indirect cost type times the
>
>>actual figure of salaries and benefits for the entire project period,
>
>>and then we  rounded the resulting figure down to a whole number for the
>
>>
>
>>Indirect Funds Requested.
>
>>
>
>>My calls to the eRA Commons help line resulted in a suggestion to round
>
>>the resulting number up or to use the actual cents as well as the
>
>>dollars.  Neither option worked.  Now the eRA people have referred me to
>
>>
>
>>the NIH help line, and I am waiting for a call back.  I am probably
>
>>overlooking something very simple, but I'm becoming a bit frantic that
>
>>our faculty members' proposals may not get submitted in time.  Thank you
>
>>
>
>>all!
>
>>
>
>>Jo Harris
>
>>Sponsored Programs Specialist
>
>>Office of Graduate Studies & Research
>
>>Appalachian State University
>
>> 287 Rivers Street
>
>> Boone , NC 28608
>
>>(828) 262-2694
>
>>
>
>>
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>
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