Lisa, I am forwarding a number of these that may choose not to keep. Thought I would be conservative and send them for your review. As suggested below, there should be changes down the road that make our current concerns moot. Bob Lynn Rollins wrote: > Hi All - I've tried both of Craig's solutions and still can't make > this work without an error message. I did get a call from NIH and they > sent me the following information - I'm trying it now. > > *Thank you for taking my call. I sent this e-mail message to my > supervisor to get her advice. I also found this in our files. > Perhaps this will help > > For the Indirect Cost Rate (%) field in the budget form, you can only > enter up to 2 numbers. * > ** > *NOTE: Grants.gov is working on a solution. Until one is implemented, > the recommended workaround is to split the Indirect Cost Rate into 2 > lines on the budget form.* > ** > Best, > Lynn > > > > >>> xxxxxx@CMICH.EDU 2/23/2006 10:36:37 am >>> > > I entered "40.00" in the IDC rate field and it worked fine. > > > > Craig > > > > > > * From: * Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] > *On Behalf Of *Vicki Krell > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:21 AM > *To:* xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal > > > > Not to beat a dead horse, but what did you do if, like ASU, you have a > IDC rate that has a decimal in it - for example, ours is 49.5%. I > thought, from a R13 I submitted last week to AHQR, that the IDC rate > needs to be expressed as a decimal rather than a whole number, because > I kept getting warnings that said that the rate was more than 1. > However, the system (g.g) will only allow me to enter 2 numbers after > a decimal (i.e. .49) - how did others handle something similar? > > > > */ Vicki /* > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On > Behalf Of Cathy Kelly > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:06 AM > To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal > > > > I received the same warning message and did the same thing that Craig > did. > > > > Cathy > > > > > > Reynolds, Craig A. wrote: > > > >>All, > >> > >>This solution worked. The proposal passed the Commons validation check. > >> > >> > >>Since the AREA guidelines direct us to enter the entire budget in Year > >>1, I have been ignoring the warning that "Direct cost requests are > >>limited to $150k a year for AREA grants. Applications that exceed this > >>limit may be delayed in the peer review process or rejected." Are > >>others doing the same? > >> > >>Craig > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Reynolds, Craig A. > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:33 AM > >>To: 'Research Administration Discussion List' > >>Subject: RE: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal > >> > >>By the way, if it comes down to it, I am going to fudge the indirect > >>cost base down to the penny so that the calculation comes out to a whole > >>dollar value. > >> > >>Craig > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Reynolds, Craig A. > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:36 AM > >>To: 'Research Administration Discussion List' > >>Subject: RE: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal > >> > >>Jo, > >> > >>You're not alone! I have encountered the same problem with one of my > >>AREA submissions (three others went through just fine), as have Bob > >>Chestnut at Eastern Illinois and Liz Lieberman from Wellesley . Probably > >>others as well. If anyone gets some advice from the Commons Help Desk > >>that seems to work, please share with the rest of us. > >> > >>I'm still waiting for a call back from the Help Desk. > >> > >>Craig > >> > >>-- > >>Craig Reynolds / Office of Research & Sponsored Programs / > >> Central Michigan University / Foust 251 / Mount Pleasant , MI 48859 / > >>T: 989.774.3859 / F: 989.774.3439 / E: xxxxxx@cmich.edu > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On > >>Behalf Of Jo Harris > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:59 AM > >>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > >>Subject: [RESADM-L] NIH AREA Grant Proposal > >> > >>Help with the following problem will be greatly appreciated! We have > >>been trying since Friday to submit proposals to the NIH AREA grant > >>program. The consistent error message says: Indirect Cost Funds > >>Requested for budget year 1 must equal the product of Indirect Cost Rate > >> > >>and Indirect Cost Base for the same year-Error." To complete the PHS > >>398 Modular Budget form, we filled in the section for Budget Period 1, > >>with the Direct Costs being the total modular amount requested for the > >>entire period of the project; and then we completed the Indirect Costs > >>section by multiplying our Salary & Wages indirect cost type times the > >>actual figure of salaries and benefits for the entire project period, > >>and then we rounded the resulting figure down to a whole number for the > >> > >>Indirect Funds Requested. > >> > >>My calls to the eRA Commons help line resulted in a suggestion to round > >>the resulting number up or to use the actual cents as well as the > >>dollars. Neither option worked. Now the eRA people have referred me to > >> > >>the NIH help line, and I am waiting for a call back. I am probably > >>overlooking something very simple, but I'm becoming a bit frantic that > >>our faculty members' proposals may not get submitted in time. Thank you > >> > >>all! > >> > >>Jo Harris > >>Sponsored Programs Specialist > >>Office of Graduate Studies & Research > >>Appalachian State University > >> 287 Rivers Street > >> Boone , NC 28608 > >>(828) 262-2694 > >> > >> > >>====================================================================== > >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > >>====================================================================== > >> > >> > >>====================================================================== > >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > >>====================================================================== > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Cathy Kelly > > Compliance Specialist > > 3040 Research and Sponsored Programs > > Illinois State University > > 309-438-7128 - Phone > > 309-438-7912 - FAX > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
