I've only been on this list for 6 months or so, but do like the fact
that various topics, some of which are of interest to me at the time,
some not, are presented.  I would prefer this type of presentation to
one where I would search by topic as my problems arise.  I think the
current format brings new information to the users as well as allowing
for a discussion on best practices.  This helps keep me up-to-date on
concepts in the field of grants administration. Thanks.

Colleen S. Sowinski, MBA
Financial Analyst
Financial Management Services
Children's Memorial Hospital
2300 Children's Plaza
CMRC, Box 205
Chicago, IL 60614
Telephone (773) 755-6526
xxxxxx@childrensmemorial.org
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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
Behalf Of Kathryn Watkins
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:40 PM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Why The List is the Way It Is...

The RESADM-L serves my needs just fine.  I like the convenience of being
on
this list.  HRI has dedicated a lot of effort to keeping this going and
I
guess I would be just a little concerned about continued maintenance of
a
different group site.  Anyway, I don't see a need to change something
that
works so well.

Just my two cents.
Katie Watkins

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Sponsored Programs and Research
Cleveland State University
216-687-3630 / 216-687-9382 (fax)

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There's been lots of discussion on RESADM-L in the last week or two
regarding all the details of running RESADM-L and the prospects of
moving
to a Google Group.  I'd like to address a couple of the comments made.

First, whomever was saying that you can't search RESADM-L's archives
just
isn't reading the tagline at the bottom of EVERY list message for the
last
3 years or so... <grin>  RESADM-L has always been searchable even back
in
the days it as hosted on a mainframe.  In fact, when I implemented the
web-based interface to the listserv, I was able to import all the
archives
from the mainframe; so, when you do like the tag says and go to
http://www.hrinet.org, you can search all the way back to when Liz ran
the
list in the early 90's.  The fact that people re-ask common questions is
just due to human nature; it has nothing to do with the availability of
search.  In fact, many people (especially in this industry) will
INTENTIONALLY ask the same questions again in case there's been a
procedure
or rule change.

Next... regarding the aspect of a "private" versus a "public" list.
RESADM-L is a "public" list, meaning that anyone can add themselves to
the
list at any time.  While you would think that would open the list up to
Spam, surprisingly it doesn't - - the fact that the ListServ requires a
confirmation ("ok") email from the user foils all the spam senders out
there.  Keeping the list as a "public" list allows us to facilitate as
many
people to come onto and off the list as possible.  Given the lists's
topic,
it's in our best interest to have as many industry-related users out
there
as possible in one forum.

There was a comment out there about the "vacation" messages sent to
someone
who sends something to the list.  There's a reason for that too.  A few
years back a new standard for Internet Email came out (one of those
annoying RFCs) which said that all Internet email should use a proper
From:
tag.  Meaning, that the From tag should list who the email REALLY came
from, *even when the message is from a list*.  Those who were on the
list
years ago remembered how easy it was to identify the list emails, as
they
were all from "xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG".  Now, they show up as being from
the
person who sent the note, with a Reply-To of the list's address.  Any
list
provider which doesn't conform to this standard will run the risk of
being
hit by spam filters.

Similarly, someone mentioned in-box clutter.  ListServ has *always*
supported not only the "DIGEST" setting (so you get just 1 message a
day),
or the "NOMAIL" setting (where you don't get ANY email, and can look at
the
web archive to read the messages).  The list jumped up significantly in
traffic a few years ago when we upgraded our server.  If the traffic is
too
heavy, I'd recommend switching to Digest mode.

Running the ListServ is no walk in the park; it's not in my job
responsibilities here at HRI, HRI gets nothing more than the rest of you
do
(knowledge) by running the list, and in fact we pay about $3000 a year
in
licensing fees to maintain the software (in addition to running the
server).  Talking about in-box clutter... the list generates between 300
and 400 email messages a day for me, 99% of which are just deleted.  And
that doesn't include fixing all the changed email addresses out there
for
people.

As always... any questions, post 'em here.

-- Mike Varney / HRI

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 subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
 via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
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======================================================================
 Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
 subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
 via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
======================================================================

======================================================================
 Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
 subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
 via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
======================================================================