Michael- Right now, eCGAP submissions are still possible. While I agree with you that the move to ANY electronic procedure could be a good first step for some PIs...I am concerned about some of the differences between eCGAP and Grants.gov. Apparently, when using service providers for eCGAP, pre-submission error checking for NIH standards works fine. However, we were told yesterday by one vendor that when S2S systems begin talking first to Grants.gov in the transmission process, they will lose much of this capability. The result is almost inevitable NIH errors, applications returned, and the rush to re-submit prior to the deadline (as was discussed and lamented in several posts yesterday). Frankly, I want investigators to get a taste of this new reality...new conception of deadlines ASAP. I fear conversion from eCGAP to Grants.gov may be a public relations fiasco..."You make me use this new electronic submission procedure, and now you tell me it's not the real one!!?? And new forms??!!" [Shots ring out, close-in on wound, fade to black] CH At 11:26 AM 12/16/2005, you wrote: >We've had a lot of success at Berkeley submitting electronic >proposals via the eCGAP program. This is where you use one of the >submission systems developed by the SBIR recipients and send your >applications electronically to the NIH Commons. It's electronic >submission on the PHS 398 form set without grants.gov in the middle. > >I have been trying to confirm with NIH and the vendors that this >option will be available through October 2006 (when R01s must be >submitted via grants.gov and the SF424 form set must be used). It >would seem strange to me that our ability to submit R01s >electronically would essentially be taken away until October 2006. >Keep in mind that an R01 is the most common application type at >research universities. I think submitting R01 electronically now, >getting PIs and campus communities ready with the notion of >submitting this way, is a good idea even if some aspects of the >process will change in October. I would be very disappointed if NIH >enables the "shut-down" of electronic PHS 398 applications through >the transition. > > >On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:00 AM, Jon Hart wrote: > >>For R01's, yes - but remember that the small and exploratory grants >>on 6/1 >>are through grants.gov. >>Also remember that NIH has said that these are target dates >>(especially >>10/1) and may be revised. >> >>Joni. >> >> >>Jon Hart, M.P.A., C.I.P. >>Senior Director >>Office of Sponsored Programs Administration >>Human Subjects Protections Program >>The Rockefeller University >>email: xxxxxx@mail.rockefeller.edu >>Tel: (212) 327-8054; fax: (212) 327-8400 >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On >>Behalf Of >>Charlie Hathaway >>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:59 AM >>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >>Subject: [RESADM-L] Transition >> >>Can someone please confirm: No PureEdge submissions for real NIH >>R01s are >>possible until 1 Oct 2005...true? >> >>So...the "transition" to R01 electronic submission via Grants.gov is >>essentially 1 June-paper....1 Oct electronic. >> >>Thanks >> >>[As Phillies catcher Bob Boone said to pitcher Tug McGraw, after >>calling >>time and walking slowly out to the mound, in the 9th inning of the >>6th and >>final game of the 1980 World Series: "Isn't this fun?"] >> >>Charlie >> >> >>====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >>subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are >>available via >>our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>====================================================================== >> >> >>====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>====================================================================== > >Michael Kusiak >Contracts and Grants Analyst >Helen Wills Neuroscience Institute >University of California >132 Barker Hall >Berkeley, CA 94720-3190 > >Phone: 510.643.6383 >Fax: 510.643.4966 >Email: xxxxxx@berkeley.edu > > >====================================================================== >Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
