I think there is a slight timing error in Evelyn's note.  The image
of the application is available in the Commons to the PI and the SO
before they make the approval.  So it is "up in the Commons" for
review by the grants office and the PI before the agency accepts it.
I sure hope we will not be seeing variations between what we send and
what arrives or this whole process is in trouble.

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Susan Burke wrote:

Sadly, i wasn't there....but our experience with PureEdge and USDE
proposals has been that we cannot see the whole enchilada as it is
served up to the sponsor.   S

Evelyn J. Ford wrote:

> According to Marcia Hahn at her presentation at SRA the other day,
> no, what we see in PureEdge are the individual components including
> any attachments you've uploaded. You won't see the actual
> application put together until after NIH has accessed and validated
> it at grants.gov. Then it gets approved by the PI and the AOR
> (equivalent to SO in Commons) and then the image of the application
> goes up in Commons. Susan, is that what you got out of the
> presentation, too?
>
> -- Evelyn
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> At 09:00 AM 10/21/2005, Robert Beattie wrote:
>
>
>> I am not sure what you mean here.  A person submitting an
>> application to Grants.gov can open it, view it, and print it.  Is
>> what we are then looking at not "the final application?"
>>
>> Bob
>> xxxxxx@umich.edu
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:11 PM, Susan Burke wrote:
>>
>> One of my biggest concerns is the fact that when we submit an
>> application through grants.gov, we can't see what the final
>> application looks like until after it is submitted...and it may
>> take up to 72 hours before we can confirm receipt and view the
>> application as it appears in the agency's system.  Or, maybe it's
>> just me?  How are y'all dealing with this?
>> Susan
>>
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>> NYU Office of Sponsored Programs
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