We do not discourage our faculty from pursuing these small foundation
grants, either. In fact, it may be suggested as a way for new/inexperienced
faculty to begin a funded career.   However, we do try to encourage them to
use these grants as pilot projects to get them ready for bigger federal
opportunities rather than depend on these sources primarily.

Another consideration is the generally lower F&A on foundation grants (if
any), and often challenging IP or other restrictions in the grant agreement.

Deborah (Debbie) L. Smith, Ed.D.
Director, Research Administration
UT Health Science Center
910 Madison, Suite 823
Memphis, TN  38163
901 448-4823
901 448-7600 fax
xxxxxx@utmem.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hart" <xxxxxx@MAIL.ROCKEFELLER.EDU>
To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Small Grants from Nongovernment Sources

> It is true that it takes relatively more resources per dollar to manage
> foundation grants vs. government awards, but this is a cost of business.
> We
> encourage our investigators to seek funding from any legal source.  I
> would
> speculate that I wouldn't have a job for long if I tried to dissuade an
> investigator from applying to any appropriate funding source.
> Joni
>
>
> Jon Hart, M.P.A., C.I.P.
> Senior Director
> Office of Sponsored Programs Administration
> Human Subjects Protections Program
> The Rockefeller University
> email:  xxxxxx@mail.rockefeller.edu
> Tel:  (212) 327-8054; fax:  (212) 327-8400
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf
> Of
> Jessica T. Kleinberg
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:16 PM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: [RESADM-L] Small Grants from Nongovernment Sources
>
> Dear Resadm-ers,
> We've been seeing an increase in the amount of small foundations and
> private
> companies that our PIs are applying to for grant funding.  As federal
> funding becomes tighter, and our researchers utilize new tools to become
> more "cutting edge," this seems logical.  However, managing these smaller
> grants and fee-for-service contracts can be extremely time consuming for
> the
> Sponsored Programs Office and the PIs (negotiating contracts, invoicing,
> low/no indirect, budget modifications, etc.).
>
> We're looking for successful ways to manage these smaller arrangements to
> minimize the drain on resources.  We've even wondered if other
> institutions
> have taken steps to discourage investigators (directly or indirectly) from
> applying for these types of projects.  Discouraging a PI from applying for
> funding seems fundamentally contrary to our mission, but we're starting to
> wonder if there could be a negative return on investment.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> Jessica Kleinberg, CRA
> Asst. Director, Sponsored Programs
> Health Research, Inc.
> One University Place
> Rensselaer, NY 12144
> (518) 431-1265
> (518) 431-1234 (Fax)
> xxxxxx@health.state.ny.us
> www.hrinet.org
>
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