Re: Roles on research projects Joe Bass 27 Aug 2005 12:09 EST
The list is very general but you also have a way to define that list down. Also there are more catagories in the budget. Joe --- Original Message --- From: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU> Sent: Sat 8/27/2005 12:37 pm To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Roles on research projects Yes, I misunderstood. Your original email spoke of "roles on research projects" and "duties". I assumed you were speaking of all duties, including the non-fiscal. And Joe's list seemed way too general. CH Quoting Terri Hall <xxxxxx@ND.EDU>: > Whoa, Charlie...guess I need to clarify. > NOT suggesting we 'outlaw' using "Statistician" or "Data Analyst" > to describe roles in research projects. These descriptions can be > immensely helpful in the narrative and budget but are way too > specific for what I was seeking. I'm going for overall big-picture roles > whether stated within proposal or not...so that everyone is clear on > who can spend and who can't more or less. > > I was looking for a list (if there is one) that provided general > descriptions > of possible roles...and the list would be something like this: > PI - directs project, responsible for overall outcome, main fiscal > responsibility, from our institution only > Co-PI - specific duties on project, may have fiscal responsibility if allowed > by > PI re: > record-keeping, and may have some spending ability, from our > institution > only > Senior/Other Personnel - duties on project, no fiscal responsibility and > cannot > spend > without permisison of PI (or Co-PI when allowed), can be from other > institutions or organizations/industry > Grad student - directed by others on project, some duties, no spending > ability, > from our institution only > Collaborator: develops and spends own budget, works with PI to determine > duties > in joint effort, receives own award, can be from other institutions or > organizations/industry > Subcontract/Subawardeee: develops statement of work with PI, creates own > budget > but is paid by PI institution for work - is part of PI's award - can spend > only > amount provided by PI from sponsor, can be from other institutions or > organizations/industry > etc. > > These descriptions are just off the top of my head and certainly unofficial, > but > I hope it clarifies things. > > The Statistician or Data Analyst would fall in the Senior/Other Personnel > category most likely...which could tell everyone he/she has no spending > ability > on this project .. and again SHOULD be listed as Statistician, etc on > proposal. > > Does that make more sense? This stems from a PI request to include someone > from > another institution on a proposal, but this 'someone' didn't want to have to > run > it through his institution. The question was...if he's not a subaward, what > role > can he play to achieve that? This original question got us thinking then > about > the new initiative to list multiple PI's and what that will do to monitoring > expenditures on the projects. > > Thanks to all for previous responses...and I welcome more in this > discussion. > Terri > > -- > Terri Hall > Associate Director of Sponsored Programs (eRA) > Office of Research*University of Notre Dame > Phn: (574) 631-7378*Fax: (574) 631-6630 > 511 Main ... ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================