The list is very general but you also have a way to define that list down. Also there are more catagories in the budget.

Joe

--- Original Message ---
From: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU>
Sent: Sat 8/27/2005 12:37 pm
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Roles on research projects

Yes, I misunderstood.  Your original email spoke of "roles on research
projects" and "duties".  I assumed you were speaking of all duties, including
the non-fiscal.  And Joe's list seemed way too general.

CH

Quoting Terri Hall <xxxxxx@ND.EDU>:

> Whoa, Charlie...guess I need to clarify.
> NOT suggesting we 'outlaw' using "Statistician" or "Data Analyst"
> to describe roles in research projects. These descriptions can be
> immensely helpful in the narrative and budget but are way too
> specific for what I was seeking.  I'm going for overall big-picture roles
> whether stated within proposal or not...so that everyone is clear on
> who can spend and who can't more or less.
>
> I was looking for a list (if there is one) that provided general
> descriptions
> of possible roles...and the list would  be something like this:
> PI - directs project, responsible for overall outcome, main fiscal
> responsibility, from our institution only
> Co-PI - specific duties on project, may have fiscal responsibility if allowed
> by
> PI re:
>      record-keeping, and may have some spending ability, from our
> institution
> only
> Senior/Other Personnel - duties on project, no fiscal responsibility and
> cannot
> spend
>      without permisison of PI (or Co-PI when allowed), can be from other
> institutions or organizations/industry
> Grad student - directed by others on project, some duties, no spending
> ability,
> from our institution only
> Collaborator: develops and spends own budget, works with PI to determine
> duties
> in joint effort, receives own award, can be from other institutions or
> organizations/industry
> Subcontract/Subawardeee: develops statement of work with PI, creates own
> budget
> but is paid by PI institution for work - is part of PI's award - can spend
> only
> amount provided by PI from sponsor, can be from other institutions or
> organizations/industry
> etc.
>
> These descriptions are just off the top of my head and certainly unofficial,
> but
> I hope it clarifies things.
>
> The Statistician or Data Analyst would fall in the Senior/Other Personnel
> category most likely...which could tell everyone he/she has no spending
> ability
> on this project .. and again SHOULD be listed as Statistician, etc on
> proposal.
>
> Does that make more sense?  This stems from a PI request to include someone
> from
> another institution on a proposal, but this 'someone' didn't want to have to
> run
> it through his institution. The question was...if he's not a subaward, what
> role
> can he play to achieve that?  This original question got us thinking then
> about
> the new initiative to list multiple PI's and what that will do to monitoring
> expenditures on the projects.
>
> Thanks to all for previous responses...and I welcome more in this
> discussion.
> Terri
>
> --
> Terri Hall
> Associate Director of Sponsored Programs (eRA)
> Office of Research*University of Notre Dame
> Phn: (574) 631-7378*Fax: (574) 631-6630
> 511 Main ...

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