Re: Grants.gov via PC emulator Robyn Remotigue 26 Aug 2005 16:23 EST
Thanks for the tip. Robyn Robyn B. Remotigue, CRA Administrator Office of Sponsored Programs P.O. Box 6156 Mississippi State, MS 39762 FEDEX : 133 Etheredge Hall Hardy Road Mississippi State, MS 39762 662.325.7397 662.325.3803 FAX Email: xxxxxx@spa.msstate.edu >>> xxxxxx@ND.EDU 08/26/05 3:35 PM >>> Robyn, I don't believe you can print it post-submission...only track its status. If you want a copy, you'll need to print the final version in PureEdge prior to submission. There's a button to do so. Terri Terri M. Hall Associate Director of Sponsored Programs (eRA) Office of Research * University of Notre Dame 511 Main Building * Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 Phn: (574) 631-7378 Fax: (574) 631-6630 http://www.nd.edu/~research/ ~ an FDP institution ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Remotigue" <xxxxxx@SPA.MSSTATE.EDU> To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov via PC emulator > Does anyone know how to print out a proposal that has been submitted via > grants.gov? I submitted a proposal earlier this week and have tried > several ways to get it to print out. > Robyn > > > > Robyn B. Remotigue, CRA > Administrator > Office of Sponsored Programs > P.O. Box 6156 > Mississippi State, MS 39762 > > FEDEX : > 133 Etheredge Hall > Hardy Road > Mississippi State, MS 39762 > > 662.325.7397 > 662.325.3803 FAX > Email: xxxxxx@spa.msstate.edu > >>>> xxxxxx@HSC.WVU.EDU 08/26/05 2:23 PM >>> > Hello, everyone, > I was stumbling around today on G.g and found a demo site. It doesn't > let you do anything other than look and listen, but it is better than > nothing. Look at the very bottom of the page indicated below: > http://www.grants.gov/CompleteApplication > There is also a PDF file, but it is simply a page-by-page shot of the > talking demo and does not look (at a cursory examination) to be > terribly > useful. > > I wish all of us good luck, > > >>>> xxxxxx@UMICH.EDU 8/25/2005 6:29:24 PM >>> > > My conclusion from Rick Smiley's note, the "Good News" is that we > have 13 months to get ready. That's the bad news too! We at > Michigan are not very far along with our system-to-system (S2S) > development so will be relying on PureEdge. To get ready for this > onslaught of proposals (maybe up to 100 at Michigan) we have been > wondering how to help our Mac folks (30% of users). The Grants.gov > staff happily say that the solution for them is easy, use a PC > emulator. Not much of a real world solution due to costs, > inconvenience, and maintenance issues. Also read all the caveats > about the emulator on the G.g site. This is only a proverbial > bandaid for a traumatic wound. > > We thought to at least provide a large dressing for the wound by > using a server-based PC emulator. > > We have a licensing agreement with Microsoft for a Windows 2003 > Server and can activate Terminal Services on it. This means that our > > staff could use PureEdge with a method that allows Macintosh to > connect to a remote Windows machine and execute the application from > it, thru a "portal" on their Mac, to easily submit applications to > Grants.gov. Mac users do not have to go to a public or alternative > station or have the emulator on their own computer. So far so good. > > The flaw with this plan is that G.g now uses PureEdge Version > 6.0.2. Version 6.0.2 doesn't natively (nicely) run under this > Terminal Service environment. We could solve our problem if G.g > would use Version 6.5 which does not have this problem; it runs > happily under Terminal Services. > > Our IT manager did try and open a grant application with version 6.5, > > and it seem to look and act good. But we cannot in good conscience > use this version without Grants.gov sanction. If a proposal were > rejected because of some nuance that we could not test for under 6.5, > > it would the responsibility of the UM Grants Office. Not something > we want to befall us. > > When we called G.g customer support and escalated questions to the > developers, they said they have no plans to test version 6.5. > > My question to the group. Is anyone, who will not have the S2S > version ready soon, currently trying Terminal Service or other form > of server based (citrix) emulator to allow a simple, mass solution to > > Mac users wanting to access Grants.gov? I would very much like to > learn of your experience. Does this not sound like a reasonable and > cheap solution for the Mac dilemma? Why won't Grants.gov validate > this option? > > Let me mention another issue with Grants.gov that we discovered in > this processs. There is no demo/test site to try and use the > application before a live submission is required. FASTLANE had a > demo site for many years to aid in the transition of moving from > paper to electronic submissions. Did I miss this, somewhere? If it > is not there, this is a huge problem with the process. If they are > going to be bringing 5,000 plus RO1's into the system in October, we > should be able to train people on how to use the system. > > Looking forward to any thoughts on this. Thanks much. > > Bob > ___________________________________ > Robert Beattie > Managing Senior Project Representative > Division of Research Development and Administration > University of Michigan > 3003 S. State Street Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1274 > office: 734 936-1283 mobile: 734 717-6281 > xxxxxx@umich.edu > > > > On Aug 25, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Smiley, Rick wrote: > > This note doesn't really do justice to the announcement. The NIH, it > appears to me, has announced it will simultaneously transition to the > > 424 and to Grants.gov exclusively in the next 13 months! > > > > "NIH will transition to the SF424 (R&R) form and electronic > submission through Grants.gov by individual research program/funding > mechanism. Funding Opportunity Announcements (also known as Request- > for-Applications and Program Announcements) will be issued in the NIH > > Guide and posted in Grants.gov as mechanisms are transitioned. The > transition by mechanism will include all active Funding Opportunity > Announcements for that program/mechanism. 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