Re: Grants.gov via PC emulator Terri Hall 26 Aug 2005 15:35 EST

Robyn,
I don't believe you can print it post-submission...only track its status.
If you want a copy, you'll need to print the final version in PureEdge
prior to submission. There's a button to do so.
Terri

Terri M. Hall
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Office of Research * University of Notre Dame
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robyn Remotigue" <xxxxxx@SPA.MSSTATE.EDU>
To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov via PC emulator

> Does anyone know how to print out a proposal that has been submitted via
> grants.gov?  I submitted a proposal earlier this week and have tried
> several ways to get it to print out.
> Robyn
>
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>>>> xxxxxx@HSC.WVU.EDU 08/26/05 2:23 PM >>>
> Hello, everyone,
> I was stumbling around today on G.g and found a demo site. It doesn't
> let you do anything other than look and listen, but it is better than
> nothing. Look at the very bottom of the page indicated below:
>           http://www.grants.gov/CompleteApplication
> There is also a PDF file, but it is simply a page-by-page shot of the
> talking demo and does not look (at a cursory examination) to be
> terribly
> useful.
>
> I wish all of  us good luck,
>
>
>>>> xxxxxx@UMICH.EDU 8/25/2005 6:29:24 PM >>>
>
> My conclusion from Rick Smiley's note, the "Good News" is that we
> have 13 months to get ready.  That's the bad news too!  We at
> Michigan are not very far along with our system-to-system (S2S)
> development so will be relying on PureEdge.   To get ready for this
> onslaught of proposals (maybe up to 100 at Michigan) we have been
> wondering how to help our Mac folks (30% of users).   The Grants.gov
> staff happily say that the solution for them is easy, use a PC
> emulator.  Not much of a real world solution due to costs,
> inconvenience, and maintenance issues.  Also read all the caveats
> about the emulator on the G.g site.  This is only a proverbial
> bandaid for a traumatic wound.
>
> We thought to at least provide a large dressing for the wound by
> using a server-based PC emulator.
>
> We have a licensing agreement with Microsoft for a Windows 2003
> Server and can activate Terminal Services on it.  This means that our
>
> staff could use PureEdge with a method that allows Macintosh to
> connect to a remote Windows machine and execute the application from
> it, thru a "portal" on their Mac, to easily submit applications to
> Grants.gov.  Mac users do not have to go to a public or alternative
> station or have the emulator on their own computer.  So far so good.
>
> The flaw with this plan is that G.g now uses PureEdge Version
> 6.0.2.   Version 6.0.2 doesn't natively (nicely) run under this
> Terminal Service environment.  We could solve our problem if G.g
> would use Version 6.5 which does not have this problem; it runs
> happily under Terminal Services.
>
> Our IT manager did try and open a grant application with version 6.5,
>
> and it seem to look and act good.  But we cannot in good conscience
> use this version without Grants.gov sanction.  If a proposal were
> rejected because of some nuance that we could not test for under 6.5,
>
> it would the responsibility of the UM Grants Office.  Not something
> we want to befall us.
>
> When we called G.g customer support and escalated questions to the
> developers, they said they have no plans to test version 6.5.
>
> My question to the group.  Is anyone, who will not have the S2S
> version ready soon, currently trying Terminal Service or other form
> of server based (citrix) emulator to allow a simple, mass solution to
>
> Mac users wanting to access Grants.gov?  I would very much like to
> learn of your experience.  Does this not sound like a reasonable and
> cheap solution for the Mac dilemma?  Why won't Grants.gov validate
> this option?
>
> Let me mention another issue with Grants.gov that we discovered in
> this processs.  There is no demo/test site to try and use the
> application before a live submission is required.  FASTLANE had a
> demo site for many years to aid in the transition of moving from
> paper to electronic submissions.  Did I miss this, somewhere?  If it
> is not there, this is a huge problem with the process.  If they are
> going to be bringing 5,000 plus RO1's into the system in October, we
> should be able to train people on how to use the system.
>
> Looking forward to any thoughts on this.  Thanks much.
>
> Bob
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> On Aug 25, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Smiley, Rick wrote:
>
> This note doesn't really do justice to the announcement. The NIH, it
> appears to me, has announced it will simultaneously transition to the
>
> 424 and to Grants.gov exclusively in the next 13 months!
>
>
>
> "NIH will transition to the SF424 (R&R) form and electronic
> submission through Grants.gov by individual research program/funding
> mechanism. Funding Opportunity Announcements (also known as Request-
> for-Applications and Program Announcements) will be issued in the NIH
>
> Guide and posted in Grants.gov as mechanisms are transitioned. The
> transition by mechanism will include all active Funding Opportunity
> Announcements for that program/mechanism. Applications in response to
>
> these announcements will require electronic submission through
> Grants.gov."
>
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