Re: Grants.gov via PC emulator Robyn Remotigue 26 Aug 2005 15:12 EST
Does anyone know how to print out a proposal that has been submitted via grants.gov? I submitted a proposal earlier this week and have tried several ways to get it to print out. Robyn Robyn B. Remotigue, CRA Administrator Office of Sponsored Programs P.O. Box 6156 Mississippi State, MS 39762 FEDEX : 133 Etheredge Hall Hardy Road Mississippi State, MS 39762 662.325.7397 662.325.3803 FAX Email: xxxxxx@spa.msstate.edu >>> xxxxxx@HSC.WVU.EDU 08/26/05 2:23 PM >>> Hello, everyone, I was stumbling around today on G.g and found a demo site. It doesn't let you do anything other than look and listen, but it is better than nothing. Look at the very bottom of the page indicated below: http://www.grants.gov/CompleteApplication There is also a PDF file, but it is simply a page-by-page shot of the talking demo and does not look (at a cursory examination) to be terribly useful. I wish all of us good luck, >>> xxxxxx@UMICH.EDU 8/25/2005 6:29:24 PM >>> My conclusion from Rick Smiley's note, the "Good News" is that we have 13 months to get ready. That's the bad news too! We at Michigan are not very far along with our system-to-system (S2S) development so will be relying on PureEdge. To get ready for this onslaught of proposals (maybe up to 100 at Michigan) we have been wondering how to help our Mac folks (30% of users). The Grants.gov staff happily say that the solution for them is easy, use a PC emulator. Not much of a real world solution due to costs, inconvenience, and maintenance issues. Also read all the caveats about the emulator on the G.g site. This is only a proverbial bandaid for a traumatic wound. We thought to at least provide a large dressing for the wound by using a server-based PC emulator. We have a licensing agreement with Microsoft for a Windows 2003 Server and can activate Terminal Services on it. This means that our staff could use PureEdge with a method that allows Macintosh to connect to a remote Windows machine and execute the application from it, thru a "portal" on their Mac, to easily submit applications to Grants.gov. Mac users do not have to go to a public or alternative station or have the emulator on their own computer. So far so good. The flaw with this plan is that G.g now uses PureEdge Version 6.0.2. Version 6.0.2 doesn't natively (nicely) run under this Terminal Service environment. We could solve our problem if G.g would use Version 6.5 which does not have this problem; it runs happily under Terminal Services. Our IT manager did try and open a grant application with version 6.5, and it seem to look and act good. But we cannot in good conscience use this version without Grants.gov sanction. If a proposal were rejected because of some nuance that we could not test for under 6.5, it would the responsibility of the UM Grants Office. Not something we want to befall us. When we called G.g customer support and escalated questions to the developers, they said they have no plans to test version 6.5. My question to the group. Is anyone, who will not have the S2S version ready soon, currently trying Terminal Service or other form of server based (citrix) emulator to allow a simple, mass solution to Mac users wanting to access Grants.gov? I would very much like to learn of your experience. Does this not sound like a reasonable and cheap solution for the Mac dilemma? Why won't Grants.gov validate this option? Let me mention another issue with Grants.gov that we discovered in this processs. There is no demo/test site to try and use the application before a live submission is required. FASTLANE had a demo site for many years to aid in the transition of moving from paper to electronic submissions. Did I miss this, somewhere? If it is not there, this is a huge problem with the process. If they are going to be bringing 5,000 plus RO1's into the system in October, we should be able to train people on how to use the system. Looking forward to any thoughts on this. Thanks much. Bob ___________________________________ Robert Beattie Managing Senior Project Representative Division of Research Development and Administration University of Michigan 3003 S. State Street Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1274 office: 734 936-1283 mobile: 734 717-6281 xxxxxx@umich.edu On Aug 25, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Smiley, Rick wrote: This note doesn't really do justice to the announcement. The NIH, it appears to me, has announced it will simultaneously transition to the 424 and to Grants.gov exclusively in the next 13 months! "NIH will transition to the SF424 (R&R) form and electronic submission through Grants.gov by individual research program/funding mechanism. Funding Opportunity Announcements (also known as Request- for-Applications and Program Announcements) will be issued in the NIH Guide and posted in Grants.gov as mechanisms are transitioned. The transition by mechanism will include all active Funding Opportunity Announcements for that program/mechanism. 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