How true...I'm with you however, I have been experiencing occasions
(young researchers) where they're AWOL.

I'm considering drafting a position paper to alter an HR policy and I
wanted to get some comparative feedback as this may allow me to better
manage personnel and expenses.

Robert Gregory Miller
Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
Administrative Director/Research Administrator
xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Elliott-Farino
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:36 PM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT
EMPLOYEES

I'm perplexed. Why is your staff averse to working an 8 hour day??? Is
it because sometimes they have to work late to get proposals out and
so they desire comp time? We're flexible - we often work late, on the
weekend, and/or take work home, but if we need to leave early, come in
late, or take off during the day for something, we can because we get
the work done. We easily average a 40 hour week, but it's not always 8
hours a day - could be 7.5, then 10, then 8, etc. I have never worked
an exempt position where I expected to arrive at 8 and leave at 5
every day. Work flow is not that predictable!

>>> xxxxxx@ND.EDU 8/11/2005 3:52:14 PM >>>

No.  Our office is really busy, so it is rare that they ask to leave
during
the day. However, on the rare day things are slow, I will tell one
them
they can leave somewhat early.  Also, if someone asks a few times to
leave
for a good reason concerning their children or for a doctor's
appointment,
I of course let them go.

Ellen Rogers  574/631-5488
Notre Dame

At 02:42 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote:
>Do you have any issues with them not working a full eight hour day?
>
>Robert Gregory Miller
>Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
>Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
>Administrative Director/Research Administrator
>xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
>Office: 323.563.5961
>Fax: 323.563.5966
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>Behalf Of Ellen Rogers
>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:29 PM
>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT
>EMPLOYEES
>
>Not at Notre Dame.  All of our research administrators are exempt.
>
>Ellen 574/631-5488
>
>
>At 02:21 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote:
> >So far your comments are great....you are the "Choir".......what I
> >really want to know......have any of you classified your research
> >assistants/associates as Nonexempt employees?
> >
> >Thanks...
> >
> >Robert Gregory Miller
> >Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
> >Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
> >Administrative Director/Research Administrator
> >xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
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> >Fax: 323.563.5966
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> >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> >Behalf Of Deb Birgen
> >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:19 PM
> >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON
EXEMPT
> >EMPLOYEES
> >
> >Hi Charles -
> >
> >It seems that the cart is going before the horse.  First you should
> >decide
> >what duties, responsibilities and authorities you want your
research
> >assistants to have, then you determine what classification they
>should
> >be.
> >With the responsibility should come the reward.  Those with the
most
> >responsibility are less likely to abuse the more flexible aspects
of
> >their
> >classifications.  If you are having employees grumbling about
having
> >to work
> >a regular 8 hour day, it might mean that you have folks not ready
for
> >the
> >responsibility of having an exempt status.
> >
> >Good Luck -
> >
> >Deb Birgen
> >206.543.4043
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> >Behalf Of
> >Robert Miller
> >Sent: Thursday, 11 Aug 2005 07:21 AM
> >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> >Subject: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT
> >EMPLOYEES
> >
> >Greetings to all...
> >
> >The correct classification of employees is essential to managing
> >costs, employer compliance, avoiding grievances and lawsuits.
> >
> >I've been receiving some grumblings about requiring my research
> >assistants/associates to work an eight hour day. There seems to be
an
> >opinion that because they are currently classified as exempt
> >employees, they are not required to work a full although they are
>paid
> >as such.
> >
> >Although I am aware of the work day latitude that the exempt status
> >carries; I was wondering if any of you classify your research
> >assistants and associates as non-exempt employees...or in the
> >alternative, can you offer any strategies (in a research
environment)
> >to define the work day as an eight hour day.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >Robert Gregory Miller
> >Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
> >Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
> >Administrative Director/Research Administrator
> >xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
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> >Fax: 323.563.5966
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