How true...I'm with you however, I have been experiencing occasions (young researchers) where they're AWOL. I'm considering drafting a position paper to alter an HR policy and I wanted to get some comparative feedback as this may allow me to better manage personnel and expenses. Robert Gregory Miller Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science Administrative Director/Research Administrator xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu Office: 323.563.5961 Fax: 323.563.5966 Notice of Confidentiality This message contains information that may be confidential or privileged. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee or any person entitled to receive it. If you received this message in error, please inform the author as soon as possible, do not disclose its contents and delete it from your system -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Carolyn Elliott-Farino Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:36 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT EMPLOYEES I'm perplexed. Why is your staff averse to working an 8 hour day??? Is it because sometimes they have to work late to get proposals out and so they desire comp time? We're flexible - we often work late, on the weekend, and/or take work home, but if we need to leave early, come in late, or take off during the day for something, we can because we get the work done. We easily average a 40 hour week, but it's not always 8 hours a day - could be 7.5, then 10, then 8, etc. I have never worked an exempt position where I expected to arrive at 8 and leave at 5 every day. Work flow is not that predictable! >>> xxxxxx@ND.EDU 8/11/2005 3:52:14 PM >>> No. Our office is really busy, so it is rare that they ask to leave during the day. However, on the rare day things are slow, I will tell one them they can leave somewhat early. Also, if someone asks a few times to leave for a good reason concerning their children or for a doctor's appointment, I of course let them go. Ellen Rogers 574/631-5488 Notre Dame At 02:42 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: >Do you have any issues with them not working a full eight hour day? > >Robert Gregory Miller >Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science >Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science >Administrative Director/Research Administrator >xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu >Office: 323.563.5961 >Fax: 323.563.5966 > > >Notice of Confidentiality > >This message contains information that may be confidential or >privileged. > >It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee or any person >entitled to receive it. If you received this message in error, >please inform the author as soon as possible, do not disclose its >contents and delete it from your system > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On >Behalf Of Ellen Rogers >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:29 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT >EMPLOYEES > >Not at Notre Dame. All of our research administrators are exempt. > >Ellen 574/631-5488 > > >At 02:21 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: > >So far your comments are great....you are the "Choir".......what I > >really want to know......have any of you classified your research > >assistants/associates as Nonexempt employees? > > > >Thanks... > > > >Robert Gregory Miller > >Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science > >Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science > >Administrative Director/Research Administrator > >xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu > >Office: 323.563.5961 > >Fax: 323.563.5966 > > > > > >Notice of Confidentiality > > > >This message contains information that may be confidential or > >privileged. > > > >It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee or any person > >entitled to receive it. If you received this message in error, > >please inform the author as soon as possible, do not disclose its > >contents and delete it from your system > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On > >Behalf Of Deb Birgen > >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:19 PM > >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT > >EMPLOYEES > > > >Hi Charles - > > > >It seems that the cart is going before the horse. First you should > >decide > >what duties, responsibilities and authorities you want your research > >assistants to have, then you determine what classification they >should > >be. > >With the responsibility should come the reward. Those with the most > >responsibility are less likely to abuse the more flexible aspects of > >their > >classifications. If you are having employees grumbling about having > >to work > >a regular 8 hour day, it might mean that you have folks not ready for > >the > >responsibility of having an exempt status. > > > >Good Luck - > > > >Deb Birgen > >206.543.4043 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On > >Behalf Of > >Robert Miller > >Sent: Thursday, 11 Aug 2005 07:21 AM > >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > >Subject: [RESADM-L] RESEARCH ASSISTANTS/ASSOCIATES AS NON EXEMPT > >EMPLOYEES > > > >Greetings to all... > > > >The correct classification of employees is essential to managing > >costs, employer compliance, avoiding grievances and lawsuits. > > > >I've been receiving some grumblings about requiring my research > >assistants/associates to work an eight hour day. There seems to be an > >opinion that because they are currently classified as exempt > >employees, they are not required to work a full although they are >paid > >as such. > > > >Although I am aware of the work day latitude that the exempt status > >carries; I was wondering if any of you classify your research > >assistants and associates as non-exempt employees...or in the > >alternative, can you offer any strategies (in a research environment) > >to define the work day as an eight hour day. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Robert > > > >Robert Gregory Miller > >Charles R. 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