spanky and jon are right.  as someone who has served as an editorial
consultant on a wide variety of proposals, i can testify that unless one
is well-versed in the discipline for which the proposal is being
written, one cannot write a successful proposal.  rather, what is
needed, is someone who can write well, who can listen well (to get to
the underlying aims, methodology, etc. of the project), and who can
interpret someone else's vision.  these qualifications, plus the ability
to edit another's work into a logically structured, compelling document
that meets the criteria identified in the guidelines, are what should be
sought in providing proposal support resources for faculty.

susan

Mike McCallister wrote:

> Showing my bias-- I think "grantwriter" positions are destined to fail
> and an overall bad idea.  It's almost impossible to have a hit rate
> that satisfies anyone unless the writer is tasked in a very small
> disciplinary area.  "twere me, I'd be looking for a technical
> writer/editor to support the faculty doing their own work--
> "grantwrters" are like sports coaches, heroes when they win and
> criticized when they don't.  Editorial assistance is seen differently
> and the responsibility stays where it belongs, on the researcher (or
> grad assistant).
>
> Spanky
>
>
> At 08:10 AM 6/29/2005, Mitchell Maltenfort wrote:
>
>> Rather than say "Me Three,"   I merely suggest that such descriptions
>> be posted to the list.
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>> On 6/29/05, Julie Cole <xxxxxx@georgiasouthern.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd appreciate a copy of the job description and payscale of a
>> grantwriter
>> > as well.
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> >
>> > Julie
>> >
>> > >>> xxxxxx@U.WASHINGTON.EDU 06/28/05 7:45 PM >>>
>> >
>> > If you have a grant/proposal writer on staff, would you mind sending me
>> > a job description and pay range to: xxxxxx@u.washington.edu? I would be
>> > most grateful. Thanks. - Alpha DeLap, University of Washington
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> "I don't know" is an answer.
>> "I don't know yet" is a better answer.
>>
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