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Re: Let's mobilize to fight electronic proposal submission SNAFU Debbie Smith 02 May 2005 15:32 EST

I wholeheartedly agree . . . I think we should also get the professional
organizations involved if we can.

In addition to the fact that grants.gov--any way you look at it--will
basically cost $$ to SUBMIT a proposal (either by establishing and
maintaining an S2S application or by purchasing software from one of the
vendors), they are still using forms.  I think the original idea was to have
a standard interface into which applicants would input data elements that
the agencies could extract into any format they chose.  Now, I'm told,
grants.gov has no less than 60 forms!!  Plus, it appears that each agency
will still use their own systems for the "back office" (or post-award)
administration--so I don't see the point in grants.gov at all.

And, I have not heard anything good about it!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Krell" <xxxxxx@IIT.EDU>
To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: [RESADM-L] Let's mobilize to fight electronic proposal submission
SNAFU

> Hi Resadmr's,
> SNAFU stands for, politely, "situation normal all fouled up." This appears
> to be where electronic proposal submission is headed, according to many
> colleagues unhappy with various features of grants.gov.
>
> Let's discuss what kinds of emails, and to which decision-makers in the
> government, resadmr's should be sending by the hundreds so that we can say
> as a group, "We strongly object to what you are doing; you will definitely
> increase the cost of academic administration at our institution and
> nationwide," etc.
>
> This seems to be a situation where 20 emails complaining might not do
> much,
> but 600 or 800 emails from this large group might start to turn the tide.
> I
> say we mobilize and use the collective power of this large, nationwide
> group. Ideas?
>
> -Glenn
>
> =======================
> Glenn Krell MPA, CRA
> Director, Research Compliance
> and Proposal Development
> Illinois Institute of Technology
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>
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