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Re: Remote PI? Jon Hart 11 Feb 2005 15:23 EST

Boy, I'm with you.  If this were an NIH grant it would not be legal to
have such "pass-through" funds.  Normally the prime grantee must do the
core work on the project, with subcontractors (of any stripe) doing
important, but complementary/secondary work. Also, as you mentioned, the
compliance issues boggle the mind.  I don't know how you could have an
investigator comply with your institution's policies if he/she must
company with the new institution's policies.  And if the person isn't an
employee, how can they be accountable to you?  What astonishes me is
that this was approved at all, in the past.  Courage!

Joni

Jon Elizabeth Hart, MPA, CIP
Senior Director, Sponsored Programs Administration
Senior Director, Human Subjects Protections Program
The Rockefeller University
1230 York Ave., NY, NY 10021-6399
tel:  (212) 327-8054; fax:  (212) 327-8400
email:  xxxxxx@rockefeller.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
Behalf Of Patricia Hagen PhD
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:59 PM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: [RESADM-L] Remote PI?

Good afternoon friends.
One of the more creative divisions of our university has come up with an
interesting new twist to avoiding grant transfers.  It's called the
"remote PI."

What this means is that when a faculty member leaves the institution to
take a faculty position at another institution, this division proposes
to keep the grant here at our institution and subcontract the PI work to
the new institution.  Then, one doesn't have to go through "bothersome"
grant transfer paperwork and also we get to keep paying people at the
original institution off the grant.

I think the whole concept is LOONY.  I see all kinds of compliance
worries related to the situation where the institution which is
responsible for the grant has a P.I. which is no longer its employee.

The latest attempt at this creative approach involves a Department of
State grant.  A predecessor approved the "remote pi" idea for this
particular grant, but the Department of State is not completely
comfortable with this, so they've come up with yet another
alternative--they'll approve the "remote PI" situation if our
institution contracts the work directly to the individual faculty
member, and not to her new institution.  They could care less if the two
institutions contract with one another!  Oy vey!  Am I on another
planet?

Please, colleagues, am I being too overcautious when I shout "NO!" into
the phone?  Be honest.  I am all about service.

Thanks,
Patty Hagen
Saint Louis University

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