This is the way it has worked for us with two problems.

One application was too large to go through our university email
(greater than 10mb) so the PI brought it to our offices on a portable
disk.

Only the person who submits the application gets the receipts and can
check on status.  I have working on having a "group" submitter.  A
"nom-de-système" with a group email.  Thus all of our submitters (no
matter who actually pushed the button) will get the info and have
access.

Oh, yes, there is the little matter that the system is so crude that it
will not work on Macs and other non-PC machines.  A problem for us with
only 2 computers out of 50 in our office being a PC.  An estimated 30%
of our faculty and research staff do not use PCs.

The process has gone smoothly enough that I would be happy to get rid
of all the rogue (rouge?) systems in the government -- education, nasa,
defense, HRSA, NSF, NIH etc and use just Grants.gov.  I wonder how much
money would be saved agency-wide if they all stopped working on their
own proposal submission systems and used Grants.gov?

Bob
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University of Michigan
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On Feb 10, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Patty Kingsmill wrote:

Terri:

We just submitted our first Grants.gov proposal and here's how it
worked:

1.  PI downloads the package to his/her desktop and completes all the
forms.
2.  PI then emails the package to the office or individual within your
institution that submits proposals (for example, Sponsored Programs.
These people are given the designation of "Authorized Organizational
Representatives" within Grants.gov and there can be more than one per
organization.)
3.  The AOR then uploads the package files to Grants.gov and hits the
"submit" button.  Note:  I personally have not done this but I
understand that it is important that you follow the instructions and
close your browser or the submit button is not available.
4.  Once submitted the AOR will receive a series of emails confirming
that the package was submitted, received, given a Grants.gov  tracking
number and an agency number.

For us, the process appeared to go smoothly.

If  I can help further, let me know.
Patty

Terri Hall wrote:

> We will be submitting our first Grants.gov proposal next week and
> input from those who've gone through the process will be invaluable.
> We've already registered and received credentials, etc. However, I
> have a couple of questions:
>
> From the documentation I've reviewed...it appears that only the
> organization registers, not individual PIs - correct?
>
> At application time:
> 1) the PI downloads the application package and PurEdge Viewer,
> 2) completes necessary forms, application
> 3) when it's ready for submission, how does our office know?
>  Will we receive an email? Can the PI submit w/o institutional
> authority?
>
> Or does the PI email you the saved package file and you upload
> everything into the system?
>
> The documentation is confusing. It is unclear whether 'applicant'
> means the PI...or the organization.
>
> If someone could give me a quick synopsis of the procedure it would be
> very helpful to me and others
> who have yet to submit to Grants.gov
> Thanks,
> Terri
>
>
>
>
>
> "One can never consent to creep when one feels
> an impulse to soar." -- Helen Keller
> Terri M. Hall
> Associate Director of Sponsored Programs (eRA)
> Office of Research
> University of Notre Dame
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