Correction: are NOT meant to be treated differently.

Robert Gregory Miller
Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
Administrative Director/Research Administrator
xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
Office: 323.563.5961
Fax: 323.563.5966

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Miller [mailto:xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:25 AM
To: 'Research Administration Discussion List'
Cc: 'Stacy Miller'
Subject: RE: [RESADM-L] Hiring on sponsored projects

Sponsored project employment opportunities are meant to be treated
differently than any other opportunity; Equal opportunity must
prevail.

Without a formalized selection process and a propensity to associate
and hire others of the same group discrimination will occur.

Robert Gregory Miller
Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science
Div. of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Molecular Science
Administrative Director/Research Administrator
xxxxxx@cdrewu.edu
Office: 323.563.5961
Fax: 323.563.5966

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
Behalf Of Mike McCallister
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:12 AM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Hiring on sponsored projects

I don't agree.  If there is a person in the narrative that is integral
to the project (and the naming is our measure of being "integral), and
that proposal is accepted and awarded, you've got an agreement in
which you need to deliver ALL the specs.  Of course the named person
has to have chops and skills to be named.  Grad students, etc., as
usual, don't count.

SPanky

At 11:21 AM 2/2/2005, you wrote:

 How interesting.  I have recently met with HR and Affirmative
Action at
 my institution (also a public, state institution) about this
same issue
 The discussion came about because a PI insisted that she had
to hire
 someone named in a grant application.  While her need to hire
this
 person was something of a straw dog, the issue itself is very
important
 and we wanted to come up with an institutional guideline
before it
 happened again.

 The consensus here was that naming on a grant has no "legal"
authority.
 From the HR perspective, it bypasses the approved
institutional hiring
 procedures.  From the Affirmative Action perspective, it
constitutes an
 unofficial "waiver" of pre-hire AA review.

 Does your HR office approve this process?  What about issues
of
 affirmative action review?

 John

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 Director, Office of Research Services
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