John, I would be very interested, as it was my inquiry this time around! Thanks, Andrew McCann, John wrote: >About a year ago, I queried this list regarding the same question. Around 25-30 people replied, and virtually all said that policies sanctioning late proposals have no teeth. I compiled the replies to my query, and would be happy to e-mail the document to anyone interested. > >John McCann, M.P.A., Ph.D. >Academic Grants Manager >The Evergreen State College >Olympia, WA 98505 >Phone 360-867-6045 >Fax 360-867-6745 >E-Mail xxxxxx@evergreen.edu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]On Behalf >Of Carlson, Claire >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 2:43 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Rush/Last Minute Proposal Policies? > > >I used to work at a university that copied and mailed out proposals at >no cost to the PIs. Because of the ever increasing number of >last-minute proposals, we changed the policy so that we only copied and >mailed if we received the proposal five working days before the >deadline. If they came in past that point, the PI had to copy and mail >at their own expense. The result was that we rarely ever copied and >mailed proposals after the establishment of the deadline. The bottom >line was that PIs did not find free copying and mailing sufficient >incentive to get things done early. PIs just have too many competing >demands. I don't think we can ever get rid of last-minute-itis. > >Claire > > >Claire L. Carlson >Associate Vice President for Research >The University of Montana >Research and Sponsored Programs >University Hall 202 >Missoula, Montana 59812-4104 >Phone (406) 243-5796 >Fax (406) 243-5739 >NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: xxxxxx@umontana.edu > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bushnell, Barbara [mailto:xxxxxx@COBA.USF.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:23 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Rush/Last Minute Proposal Policies? > >Many years ago I attended one of the NCURA Fundamentals of Sponsored >Research programs. One speaker, from one of the Washington state >universities, said his office had a firm policy of not sending anything >out overnight express. Proposals had to be in Sponsored Research 10 >days in advance of the deadline for review. They sent out everything >regular mail. PI's or their departments had to cover the costs of any >express mail required for any of the proposals that did not meet the 10 >day deadline. He said it was rare that they ever had a problem. I >thought the policy was outstanding. > >Barb > >Barb Bushnell >Coordinator, Accounting >University of South Florida >College of Business Administration, BSN 3403 >4202 East Fowler Avenue >Tampa, FL 33620 >Phone: (813) 974-3270 >Fax: (813) 974-3030 > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]On Behalf >Of Susan Meslang >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:57 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Rush/Last Minute Proposal Policies? > > >We are having the same problems - no matter the funding agent. In the >past everything was done to get a proposal submitted on time even when >the PI submitted it very late - resulting in sloppy work, late hours >etc. We are eager to hear how others handle this. > >Susan W. Meslang >Director of Grants and Sponsored Programs Tidewater Community College >121 College Place >Norfolk, Virginia 23510-1907 >Office 757 822-1773 >Cell 757 409-2887 >Fax 757 822-1007 >xxxxxx@tcc.edu > > > > >>>>xxxxxx@UAF.EDU 1/25/2005 6:17:27 PM >>> >>>> >>>> >Hello all, > >We're having a lot of trouble with rush and last minute proposals, >especially for the NSF deadline that passed yesterday. Does anyone have >a good policy for dealing with these types of proposals, or does anyone >use any sort of incentive/penalty system if the proposal is on-time vs. >late? We are considering a small pool of money with a drawing per year >for investigators that get their proposals in on time. Conversely, there >is serious talk from on high about charging the offending unit a fee if >the proposal is last minute. Obviously training will factor some into >this situation as we implement our upcoming faculty training, but for >now, we really feel the need to implement a policy that deals with >proposals that don't follow our 5 business day rule. Any ideas >appreciated. > >Sincerely, >Andrew Gray > >-- >==================================================== >Andrew M. Gray, CRA - Senior Pre-Award Administrator UAF Office of >Sponsored Programs 909N Koyukuk Drive / P.O. Box 757270 Suite 212F West >Ridge Research Building Fairbanks, AK 99775-7270 > >Phone: (907) 474-1851 >Fax: (907) 474-5444 >E-mail: xxxxxx@uaf.edu >Web: http://www.uaf.edu/osp/ > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > > -- ==================================================== Andrew M. 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