If you can prove that late proposals are sloppier and poorer in quality AND less competitive than those on time, then we all need to see this evidence.  I love to talk about planning and proofreading in grantsmanship talks but I know that some people simply produce great proposals at the last minute.
Research came before research administration.  And the most important factor in getting extramural funding is research, not the administration of it.  We are up against a Goliath.  There is no hope.

Charlie

At 04:57 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote:
>We are having the same problems - no matter the funding agent.  In the
>past everything was done to get a proposal submitted on time even when
>the PI submitted it very late - resulting in sloppy work, late hours
>etc.  We are eager to hear how others handle this.
>
>Susan W. Meslang
>Director of Grants and Sponsored  Programs
>Tidewater Community College
>121 College Place
>Norfolk, Virginia  23510-1907
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>
>>>> xxxxxx@UAF.EDU 1/25/2005 6:17:27 PM >>>
>Hello all,
>
>We're having a lot of trouble with rush and last minute proposals,
>especially for the NSF deadline that passed yesterday. Does anyone
>have
>a good policy for dealing with these types of proposals, or does
>anyone
>use any sort of incentive/penalty system if the proposal is on-time
>vs.
>late? We are considering a small pool of money with a drawing per year
>for investigators that get their proposals in on time. Conversely,
>there
>is serious talk from on high about charging the offending unit a fee
>if
>the proposal is last minute. Obviously training will factor some into
>this situation as we implement our upcoming faculty training, but for
>now, we really feel the need to implement a policy that deals with
>proposals that don't follow our 5 business day rule. Any ideas
>appreciated.
>
>Sincerely,
>Andrew Gray
>
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