We are a private hospital affiliated with a university.  We are two separate
legal entities.

The faculty are university employees who are contracted to work at the
hospital research institution.  All grants are submitted through the
university.  For grant submissions we leave the PI salary/fringes at the
university utilizing their off campus F&A rate. Because they are paid by the
university they are considered university PIs. For the part of the grant
involving the hospital research institution staff and facilities we
subcontract with the university, this can be a significant portion of the
grant.  The hospital supports the funding shortfalls. The hospital and the
university are cited in all publications and PR.

 One of our faculty does have a dual VA, and university appointment while
being credentialed to practice at the hospital.  For grants purposes his
base salary is the university salary for grants submitted via the
university.

It has worked for eleven years very successfully.

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of
Carol Sprague
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 AM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: [RESADM-L] Need advice for paying people under a jointly funded
institute

Here is the background:  Our University, along with a private hospital,
have agreed to jointly fund a research institute until they can become
mostly self sufficient by the projects they bring in.  We anticipate
they will never really be fully self sufficient.   Expenditures
including rent are kept track of and at the end of the year, we settle
up so that both institutions share the expense equally.  Most of the
grants for Institute Research are sent through UMass because we really
have a better infrastructure to handle sponsored research.  The
University has approved adjunct appointments to some of the people
working out of the Institute who are hospital employees to make the
eligible to be UMass PI's on their projects.  Now comes the problem.
How do we pay them?  I say we can't subcontract back to the hospital
because you can't have one person serve at two institutions as PI
because this would be a conflict of interest.  If we pay them through
UMass, they now have two appointments which can really cause a problem
with their retirement benefits, health care, etc.    Is there anyone out
there with words of wisdom on this subject or who has had a similar
relationship?  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

--
Carol P. Sprague, Director
Office of Grant & Contract Admin
Research Administration Building
70 Butterfield Terrace
Phone (413) 545-0698
Fax (413) 545-1202
http://www.umass.edu/research/ogca/

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