On Sep 23, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Herbert B. Chermside wrote: > Hey, folks, here's the background. > The IPA is essentially a Personnel of Human Resources agreement. > "Here's > our employee on temporary assignment to you; you pay the salary and > benefits but he remains on our payroll so his advantages of job > continuation do not get lost." It is handled as a sponsored program at > most institutions simply because that office has the skills and > knowledge > to handle the contracting processes and the financial matters -- in > fact it > may be the only good model for getting the $ into the institution. > > As a realistic matter, there are administrative costs for handling the > transaction. It appears appropriate to have those costs reimbursed. > DOD > has recognized this. However, a careful reading of their memo refers > to > those costs in terms that make it clear that they want to pay only the > reimbursement of the kinds of costs associated with handling the > transaction. And they make it clear that the rate of administrative > cost > reimbursement is negotiable, and should be based on what you can show > actually is your cost. > > My personal opinion is that an off-campus rate, probably whatever is > your > lowest off-campus rate, could be justified as covering the > administrative > costs of the transaction. But if they want to allow you less, but > still > something, take it an run. Half a loaf is better than no bread at > all! (Pardon the pun!) > > Chuck > > > At 11:30 AM 9/23/2004, you wrote: >> Brenda, >> I agree with Samuela that it is not prohibited. On the attached COGR >> document, institutions should negotiate an appropriate rate with its >> cognizant federal agency. >> >> At the Medical University of South Carolina we utilize VA IPA >> assignment >> agreements which do not include indirect costs. We view the VA as a >> local "partner" as well as a federal agency. We felt if we pushed the >> issue, they would require physicians to clock in and out to document >> their duty hours. Even though the building is three blocks away, the >> inefficiency would be enormous. We do not have IPAs with any other >> federal agencies at this time. >> Thanks, >> Susan >> >> -- >> Susan A. Brown, C.R.A. >> Grants & Contracts Administrator >> Medical University of South Carolina >> Research & Sponsored Programs >> 165 Cannon Street, Room 401 (express mail & drop +4 zip code) >> P.O. Box 250854 (U.S. Postal Service only) >> Charleston, SC 29425-0854 >> PH: 843-792-2040 (my desk) >> PH: 843-792-3838 (receptionist) >> FX: 843-792-6447 >> >> >> >> McKinley, Brenda R wrote: >> >>> Good morning to all, >>> >>> I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has experience with >>> IPA >>> assignment agreements. The OPM guidelines for the IPA Mobility >>> Program >>> indicate that "agencies should not authorized reimbursement for >>> indirect >>> or administrative costs associated with the assignment." I seem to >>> remember, however, previous listserve email about the possibility of >>> negotiating an indirect cost rate for IPA agreements. In the >>> absence of >>> a negotiated rate, are indirect costs out of the question on these >>> agreements? Do the words "should not" mean that it may be allowable >>> in >>> some cases? If so, when? >>> >>> Thanks for any information you can provide. >>> >>> Brenda McKinley, CRA >>> Grants Coordinator >>> The University of Toledo >>> Office of Research >>> MS 944 2801 W. 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