Re: PerDiems for Animals/Small Institutions Farnsworth, Franci 18 Aug 2004 17:43 EST
We do not charge per diems for use of animal facility by faculty who are externally funded ... the facility operation is part of the indirect costs. However, grants do pay for any new animals and cages ... and supplies that can be attributed to the grant (eg, surgical equipment). If the grant uses animals already purchased for other purposes, we would not charge the grant. I'll be interested to know if other PUI's handle animal research costs differently ... Franci Farnsworth Frances Vinal Farnsworth Coordinator of Sponsored Research Library Room 223 Middlebury College Middlebury, VT 05753 Tel: 802-443-5889 Fax: 802-443-2081 Email: xxxxxx@middlebury.edu Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/offices/grants/ -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]On Behalf Of Barbara Gray Sent: Wed, August 18, 2004 3:28 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: [RESADM-L] PerDiems for Animals/Small Institutions I'm looking for guidance from predominantly undergraduate institutions with small animal programs that primarily serve instructional and in-house research needs..... Our animal care and use program is institutionally funded (has its own annual budget)--funding covers food, bedding, animal care staff and vet payments, cage washer maintenance, training and travel and the like. Departments purchase the animals used for these purposes. To date, all of our laboratory animals have either been for instruction or for research not funded extramurally. For the first time, we are about to develop a budget for an NIH research project that will use rats and mice. We are having a dfference of opinion about whether or not we should request funding for animal per diems. I believe this is an appropriate direct cost to the grant, but some here feel that, since the research project will involve students (who will be paid as research assistants) it is educational in nature and so the institution should pay to purchase the animals and care for them. I need some backup examples of institutions like ours that do assess perdiems in this kind of situation. Also, I need to know the going daily rate for rats and mice. Needless to say, we need help quickly, as the deadline is looming and I have battle to do..... Thanks. Barbara -- ================================================================== Barbara H. Gray, Director Office of Research & Grants Administration College of Charleston 66 George Street Charleston, SC 29424 Campus Location: 407-G Bell Bldg. Office: 843.953.5673 Desk: 843.953.5885 Fax: 843.953.6577 e-mail: xxxxxx@cofc.edu URL: http://www.orga.cofc.edu/ ================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================