Joyce,

My current office requires a detailed budget in any format, NIH forms or
other.

At an office I worked in previously, we designed a checklist that would
provide us with the information we needed to check the numbers we needed to
check and that also streamlined the process for the faculty. It's online at
http://www.med.ufl.edu/research/GrantForms/ModCheck.doc.

Alexia Lewis
Sr. Grants Specialist
University of Florida
Office of Engineering Research
343 Weil Hall, Box 116550
Gainesville, FL 32611
Phone: 352-392-9448 ext. 4
Fax: 352-846-1371
http://www.eng.ufl.edu/home/oer/

At 08:56 AM 8/6/2004, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I have another question to put before the group for which I need advice.
>
>We have had requests from the faculty to reduce our budget requirements
>for proposals being submitted to agencies like the NIH that are modular
>or just in time or whatever. They don't require much information on the
>front end related to the budget but we still require the faculty to
>prepare budgets so that we know they've thought about their needs and
>have accounted for sufficient funding for personnel, etc. We also need
>to know equipment or subcontract needs in order to calculate the
>indirect costs. Then we just need a ballpark figure to cover other
>expenses such as supplies, travel, duplicating, phone, maintanence, etc.
>They feel this is too much work and say that no other schools require
>this at the front end, only after it is funded.
>
>My question to all of you... is this true? Do you have a more
>streamlined method of proposal budget prep that requires less work for
>both the PI and our office? My concern is that if we don't require them
>to think about it at the front end, they won't request the right amount
>of funding and then it's too late to say to the agency, we need more.
>
>Thanks for you help and I look forward to hearing from anyone willing to
>help me.
>
>Joyce
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Joyce M. Davies, CPA
>Manager, Grants Accounting
>Northeastern Ohio Universities College of  Medicine
>4209 SR 44, PO Box 95
>Rootstown OH 44272
>
>phone:  330-325-6369
>fax:  330-325-7943
>email:  xxxxxx@neoucom.edu
>
>
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