North Dakota State University still requires a detailed budget from the PI
for the proposal.

At 07:56 AM 8/6/2004, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I have another question to put before the group for which I need advice.
>
>We have had requests from the faculty to reduce our budget requirements
>for proposals being submitted to agencies like the NIH that are modular
>or just in time or whatever. They don't require much information on the
>front end related to the budget but we still require the faculty to
>prepare budgets so that we know they've thought about their needs and
>have accounted for sufficient funding for personnel, etc. We also need
>to know equipment or subcontract needs in order to calculate the
>indirect costs. Then we just need a ballpark figure to cover other
>expenses such as supplies, travel, duplicating, phone, maintanence, etc.
>They feel this is too much work and say that no other schools require
>this at the front end, only after it is funded.
>
>My question to all of you... is this true? Do you have a more
>streamlined method of proposal budget prep that requires less work for
>both the PI and our office? My concern is that if we don't require them
>to think about it at the front end, they won't request the right amount
>of funding and then it's too late to say to the agency, we need more.
>
>Thanks for you help and I look forward to hearing from anyone willing to
>help me.
>
>Joyce
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Joyce M. Davies, CPA
>Manager, Grants Accounting
>Northeastern Ohio Universities College of  Medicine
>4209 SR 44, PO Box 95
>Rootstown OH 44272
>
>phone:  330-325-6369
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