We still require a complete itemized page 4 budget for all proposals, modular
or otherwise.  I think many other schools do too.

Charlie Hathaway
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
Bronx, NY

Quoting Joyce Davies <xxxxxx@NEOUCOM.EDU>:

> Hi,
> I have another question to put before the group for which I need advice.
>
> We have had requests from the faculty to reduce our budget requirements
> for proposals being submitted to agencies like the NIH that are modular
> or just in time or whatever. They don't require much information on the
> front end related to the budget but we still require the faculty to
> prepare budgets so that we know they've thought about their needs and
> have accounted for sufficient funding for personnel, etc. We also need
> to know equipment or subcontract needs in order to calculate the
> indirect costs. Then we just need a ballpark figure to cover other
> expenses such as supplies, travel, duplicating, phone, maintanence, etc.
> They feel this is too much work and say that no other schools require
> this at the front end, only after it is funded.
>
> My question to all of you... is this true? Do you have a more
> streamlined method of proposal budget prep that requires less work for
> both the PI and our office? My concern is that if we don't require them
> to think about it at the front end, they won't request the right amount
> of funding and then it's too late to say to the agency, we need more.
>
> Thanks for you help and I look forward to hearing from anyone willing to
> help me.
>
> Joyce
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