Re: A-21 Aull, Robert M 20 Jul 2004 11:26 EST
To add to Pat's tricky point, the NIH modular format relies on such "residuals"--an even number of modules ignores budget variation and inflation, a situation offset by automatic carry forward authority. When the indirect cost "steps" ascend the PI's residual direct costs take a hit; when they descend the residual indirect costs pay a dividend to the PI. Hoping your institutional rates ascend, Robert Aull Indiana University -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Hawk, Patricia Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:22 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] A-21 My take on this is that if you have a negotiated F&A rate agreement that stipulates those "step" increases by year, then you use those increases in each year of your budget. If you are preparing a budget that takes you into the "provisional" period, then you use the rate of the last predetermined year. As an example, our rate is currently provisional after 7/1/06 because our rate agreement only gives us predetermined rates through 6/30/06. Now, the one thing that hasn't been mentioned (yet) is how this plays out in an award where you don't spend all of "year 1" money and the higher rate goes into effect for year 2. This can get tricky, but hopefully your PIs do an excellent job of forecasting and there's very little "residual" from year to year. Pat Patricia A. Hawk Cost Analyst, Business Affairs Oregon State University 306 Kerr Administration Building Corvallis, OR 97331 (phone) 541-737-9585 (fax) 541-737-2069 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Val Kettner Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:56 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: [RESADM-L] A-21 Greetings! Quick question...A-21 G.7. on Fixed rates for the life of the sponsored agreement - if you have a negotiated indirect cost rate agreement that provides for increases each year (example 41%, 41.5%, 42%, 42.5%), what rate do you use for multi-year proposals? Can you use the rate that will be applicable for each year, or must you use the rate the will be applicable for the first year for all subsequent years? I have heard this both ways...looking for clarification... Thanks! Val Kettner Sponsored Programs Administration North Dakota State University ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================