Whew! I remember getting this question when I was a "Fed" with EPA also. Purchase orders were issued to universities for small projects like specialized report-writing, and we didn't have to competitively bid them. Some universities got really upset when we didn't provide a CFDA number, so I told our purchasing agent (who issued the PO's) that she could give them 66.500 because we were in the Office of Research & Development (ORD) and EPA combined all of the ones from ORD into a "consolidated research" number. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Kim Chanley Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:53 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] CFDA numbers and federal purchase orders Hi Pat, thanks, that's how we handle it presently too. Kim >>> xxxxxx@OREGONSTATE.EDU 7/6/2004 10:17:12 AM >>> Kim, I was out of the office last week, so I don't know if someone's already mentioned this. While it's true that CFDA numbers are for domestic assistance, your institution's A-133 audit requires a listing of all federal and federal pass-through awards, so even though contracts aren't assistance, the people who set up your awards are going to need something, and the auditors will expect to see contracts on the annual listing of Federal expenses. So what I've found is helpful from my work at UO and OHSU is to list the agency "prefix" and then 3 "x's" (e.g., Agriculture's is 10, so a contract with Agriculture would be 10.xxx). You can go do the CFDA website to get the agency "prefixes". Pat Patricia A. Hawk Cost Analyst, Business Affairs Oregon State University 306 Kerr Administration Building Corvallis, OR 97331 (phone) 541-737-9585 (fax) 541-737-2069 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of Kim Chanley Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:14 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] CFDA numbers and federal purchase orders Thanks for the quick replies, everyone! >>> xxxxxx@VCU.EDU 6/29/2004 2:12:43 PM >>> Not assistance, so no CFDA # CFDA # only for "domestic", i.e., excludes some, like AID, not for domestic use, "assistance", i.e., grants, not contracts. Sometimes you might have to have a "false" CFDA number for internal purposes, e.g., 9999 to indicate "no CFDA #" Chuck At 03:45 PM 6/29/2004, you wrote: >Hi all, >When we receive a purchase order from a federal agency, should we be >requesting and documenting the CFDA number associated with that project? >We have heard that since they are not "assistance agreements" that we >don't have to worry about the CFDA number. Is that your understanding? > >Thanks in advance, > >Kim Chanley > >Kimberly Chanley >Manager >Sponsored Projects Accounting >Boise State University > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== Herbert B. 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