Re: CFDA numbers and federal purchase orders Hawk, Patricia 06 Jul 2004 15:50 EST

Whew!  I remember getting this question when I was a "Fed" with EPA
also.  Purchase orders were issued to universities for small projects
like specialized report-writing, and we didn't have to competitively bid
them.  Some universities got really upset when we didn't provide a CFDA
number, so I told our purchasing agent (who issued the PO's) that she
could give them 66.500 because we were in the Office of Research &
Development (ORD) and EPA combined all of the ones from ORD into a
"consolidated research" number.

Pat

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Hi Pat,
thanks, that's how we handle it presently too.

Kim

>>> xxxxxx@OREGONSTATE.EDU 7/6/2004 10:17:12 AM >>>
Kim,

I was out of the office last week, so I don't know if someone's
already
mentioned this.  While it's true that CFDA numbers are for domestic
assistance, your institution's A-133 audit requires a listing of all
federal and federal pass-through awards, so even though contracts
aren't
assistance, the people who set up your awards are going to need
something, and the auditors will expect to see contracts on the annual
listing of Federal expenses.  So what I've found is helpful from my
work
at UO and OHSU is to list the agency "prefix" and then 3 "x's" (e.g.,
Agriculture's is 10, so a contract with Agriculture would be 10.xxx).
You can go do the CFDA website to get the agency "prefixes".

Pat

Patricia A. Hawk
Cost Analyst, Business Affairs
Oregon State University
306 Kerr Administration Building
Corvallis, OR  97331
(phone) 541-737-9585
(fax) 541-737-2069

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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] CFDA numbers and federal purchase orders

Thanks for the quick replies, everyone!

>>> xxxxxx@VCU.EDU 6/29/2004 2:12:43 PM >>>
Not assistance, so no CFDA #

CFDA # only for "domestic", i.e., excludes some, like AID, not for
domestic
use, "assistance", i.e., grants, not contracts.

Sometimes you might have to have a "false" CFDA number for internal
purposes, e.g., 9999 to indicate "no CFDA #"

Chuck

At 03:45 PM 6/29/2004, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>When we receive a purchase order from a federal agency, should we be
>requesting and documenting the CFDA number associated with that
project?
>We have heard that since they are not "assistance agreements" that we
>don't have to worry about the CFDA number. Is that your
understanding?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Kim Chanley
>
>Kimberly Chanley
>Manager
>Sponsored Projects Accounting
>Boise State University
>
>
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