We do the same. The PI's rationale for segregating administrative responsibilites from base salary (in the single case I've encountered here) is that the sponsor specified the maximum size of the award; the PI wanted to use the portion of his compensation excluded from base salary for supplies and other categories. The scenario for the second part of your questions sounds like this: someone is being asked to direct a large project that will impose administrative tasks he or she does not now perform; it's being proposed that if the grant is awarded the person's salary will be increased in compensation for these new tasks. That's a no-no: you can't increase base salary purely on the basis of getting the award. The solution is to decrease the person's commitments to other projects. -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]On Behalf Of Jennifer Morgan Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:24 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] base salary question NIH defines institutional base salary as "the annual compensation paid by an organization for an employee's appointment, whether that individual's time is spent on research, teaching, patient care, or other activities." It only excludes "any income that an individual is permitted to earn ourside of duties for the applicant/grantee organization." So if it's work done for the institution, it's a part of the 100% professional effort at the institution. Here, we handle it as salary for work done... 100% is 100% is 100% of institutional effort. It creates problems sometimes in putting someone over the NIH cap, but I don't see how we can get around the fact that if someone is paid a supplement, it's still compensation for work done at the institution and the supplement is for the level of responsibility, rather than an increase of what 100% of total professional effort can be. 100% is all there is. (Except when it comes to the VA, of course, which is income earned outside of the applicant organization.) Dashed this off quick, hope it makes sense. -Jennifer Jennifer Morgan, MHA Vice Chair for Research Administration Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science Southern Section President Society of Research Administrators International Medical University of South Carolina 67 President Street, Suite 504 Charleston, South Carolina 29425 voice: 843-792-0191 fax: 843-792-0048 email: xxxxxx@musc.edu >>> xxxxxx@LIU.EDU 07/02/04 10:35AM >>> We do not consider the "extra" pay as part of the individual's base salary. When the administrative assignment ends, the salary reverts back to the base salary level. We have found that the easiest way to talk about this with faculty, and even within the administration, is to look at what would happen if the individual no longer carried out the duties for which they receive the extra pay. If the answer is that the salary will change by reverting to some other level, then the extra pay is definitely not part of the base salary. I am not sure I understand the second part of your question but that may be because we only authorize extra pay for administrative duties or for teaching an overload. Extra duties have not been identified with research or scholarly activities. Kathryn Rockett Assistant Vice President for Sponsored Research -----Original Message----- From: Conrad Hohenlohe [mailto:xxxxxx@AMERICAN.EDU] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:59 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: [RESADM-L] base salary question Hi. A quick question for anybody on the list who has faced a similar situation. When a faculty member receives extra pay for taking on administrative responsibilities (department chair, division head, acting dean, etc.), is that extra pay considered part of the faculty member's "base salary" or not for the purposes of calculating how much pay to charge to a grant? And then one additional wrinkle: is this determination changed any if the faculty member's responsibilities in the grant are a direct result of the new responsibilities for which he/she is receiving extra pay? Thanks very much. Conrad ___________________________________________________ Conrad Hohenlohe Assistant Director/Compliance Administrator Office of Sponsored Programs, American University 4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20016-8066 tel: (202) 885-3474; fax: (202) 885-3453; xxxxxx@american.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================