I think it is useful to  present a range of increasingly complex scenarios (not
all having to do with research adminsistration) to the class for discussion that
don't necessarily have clear cut solutions, and then ask them to sort them out. I
have used this exercise very successfully with undergraduates. I also recommend
the play "A Man for All Seasons" by Robert Bolt (or the film which is different,
but also excellent) for its perspectives on the role of the administrator. We had
a sparky discussion on that topic after seeing the film in class.

"Herbert B. Chermside" wrote:

> And don't forget that what you are documenting is PROCESS for determining
> what is "ethical" as decided by your various compliance groups in given
> situations, rather than absolute ethical principles.
>
> Chuck
>
> At 11:16 AM 6/23/2004, you wrote:
> >The Compliance mantra:
> >
> >"document, document, document"
> >
> >document: verb. To prove with support by, or provide by documents.
> >
> >: )
> >
> >Charlie Hathaway wrote:
> >
> > > CRA Yoga:
> > >
> > > an introduction to the newly discovered sutras emphasizing selfless
> > devotion to work, breathing control, and chanting of mantras (e.g.
> > "deadline past...deadline past...deadline past").
> > >
> > > At 12:05 PM 6/22/2004, you wrote:
> > > >I did my graduate work in Health Administration, which also had a lot
> > of useful courses... but not right on target. The best part was my
> > master's thesis work which was self-selected and done on establishing
> > training programs in research administration.
> > > >
> > > >I would like to see an accredited distance learning master's level
> > certificate program established that could be accessed by research
> > administrators from their home institutions.  It has been discussed by
> > the professional society leadership for years, but just hasn't come to pass.
> > > >
> > > >What courses would you recommend should one be developed?
> > > >
> > > >Jennifer Morgan, MHA
> > > >
> > > >Vice Chair for Research Administration
> > > >Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science
> > > >
> > > >Southern Section President
> > > >Society of Research Administrators International
> > > >
> > > >Medical University of South Carolina
> > > >67 President Street, Suite 504
> > > >Charleston, South Carolina  29425
> > > >
> > > >voice:  843-792-0191
> > > >fax:  843-792-0048
> > > >email:  xxxxxx@musc.edu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>> xxxxxx@MAIL.ROCKEFELLER.EDU 06/22/04 11:43AM >>>
> > > >No, but I took an M.P.A. (basically an M.B.A. but with focus on
> > > >not-for-profit and public sector) and that has worked out pretty well.
> > > >There are many institutions which offer this degree.
> > > >Joni.
> > > >
> > > >Jon Elizabeth Hart, MPA, CIP
> > > >Senior Director, Sponsored Programs Administration
> > > >Senior Director, Human Subjects Protections Program
> > > >The Rockefeller University
> > > >1230 York Ave., NY, NY 10021-6399
> > > >tel:  (212) 327-8054; fax:  (212) 327-8400
> > > >email:  xxxxxx@rockefeller.edu
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> > > >Behalf Of Laurie Chamness
> > > >Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 3:15 PM
> > > >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> > > >Subject: [RESADM-L] degree or certificate program in research
> > > >administration
> > > >
> > > >I am aware of the CRA (Certified Research Administrator) that is offered
> > > >by the Research Administrators Certification Council. However, do you
> > > >know of any academic institution that has a degree program or a
> > > >certificate program in Research Administration?
> > > >
> > > >Laurie
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Laurie Chamness
> > > >Assistant Director
> > > >Office of Research and Sponsored Programs
> > > >Medical University of South Carolina
> > > >PO Box 250854
> > > >Charleston, SC  29425
> > > >
> > > >Ph (843) 792-3832
> > > >Fax (843) 792-6447
> > > >E-Mail:  xxxxxx@musc.edu
> > > >
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> Special Asst. to VP-Research
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> PO BOX 980568
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