Re: Variable Indirect Cost Rate Herbert B. Chermside 15 Apr 2004 10:33 EST

Agree with previous comments, "Don't leave money on the table!"  I do note
that we WILL NOT allow a for-profit to claim they don't pay F&A
costs.  They MUST pay the full cost of research or we are subsidizing
private profit with public funds.  This doesn't apply to a charitable
foundation of a for-profit.  And in a few cases where a for-profit is
really supporting a public goal we will make an exception, but we will
ensure that the research results do not go the for-profit until made
available to all.  (The for-profit could also make a gift for the purpose
of supporting this research, but might, for its internal purposes, prefer a
research expense to a research gift.)

My standard for measuring the research activity as on- or off- campus has
been the personnel costs.  Any measure made consistently would work, but
effort best describes "how much" research in each category, and personnel
cost is the measure of effort that can be used from the proposal through
close-out, whereas a direct measure of % effort not only is unavailable
until afterwards, but is often poorly or inaccurately recorded.

Chuck

At 09:55 AM 4/15/2004, you wrote:
>Good morning,
>
>Can any of you tell me how your organization deals with situations in which
>the PI presents with a funding source that doesn't allow indirect costs or
>supports indirects at a rate less than your organization's approved indirect
>cost rate? What criteria does your organization use to decide which
>applications to support as the grantee organization?
>
>On a related topic, for those of you whose organization charges a different
>indirect cost rate depending on whether the research is conducted on or
>offsite, how does your organization determine onsite & offsite indirect cost
>rates?
>
>Any information you can provide would be appreciated. If you'd like, you can
>respond to me offline at xxxxxx@thegenevafoundation.org. Thank you in
>advance for your help.
>
>Anne Reedy
>The Geneva Foundation
>3315 S. 23rd Street, Suite 209
>Tacoma, WA 98405
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