Re: Training grants with 8% indirect cost cap Herbert B. Chermside 12 Mar 2004 10:25 EST
Michael, I haven't dealt with auditors on this. However, these pointers may help. They are from experience with educational institutions; I do not know if they apply to you, but... The limitation on F&A is regulatory. Therefore you know going into the matter that this is not a recoverable cost. Hence your decision to accept this kind of award includes the decision to fund any difference between the statutory limit from institutional resources. Therefore the cost is not something that could be billed and not recovered; it cannot be billed. It is this decision to fund from institutional resources that they appear to be trying to allocate appropriately. IF the auditors, studying the indirect cost agreement with NIH do find that your indirect costs on this type of activity should properly be some other indirect rate than that limited by statute, that is the difference that they are trying to allocate. However, they may be making an improper assumption that some negotiated indirect rate other than the statutorily limited one does, in fact, represent the appropriate full indirect cost for that project. Determining this really gets back to how your indirect is negotiated. Hope this gives some help. Chuck At 10:11 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote: >Some time ago I posted a question to the group concerning handling of the >under-recovery of indirect costs associated with training grants. Our >auditors have maintained that the under-recovery has to be recognized on >the accounting statements as a financial loss, i.e. made up from our >financial reserves. I received some information that suggested there may >be some disagreement on this point. > >If you have familiarity or experience with this issue I would very much >like to hear from you. I also would like to know where to look for a >definitive answer if there is one. > >Thanks everyone-- > >Michael Pelletier >Associate Director, Office of Sponsored Programs >Education Development Center, Inc. >(617)618-2227 > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== Herbert B. Chermside, CRA Virginia Commonwealth University PO BOX 980568 Richmond, VA 23298-0568 Voice: 804-827-6036 Fax 804-828-2051 e-mail xxxxxx@vcu.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================