I agree with the essence of Joni's warning about filling T32 slots out of convenience.  A big concern should be how an unproductive investigator's career path will impact the statistics presented for your T32 renewal.  But won't NIH's immediate perception of the appointment be based on the specifics of the case?   I can think of several cases in which a member of the "permanent staff" would be an excellent candidate for a T32.  Money is certainly tight, and will get tighter if the 15%-ile payline predictions are true.  As such, creativity may be required to keep some good people supported.

IF your specific case involves a clinician looking for some research experience, be sure to look at the K08 and K23.

Charlie

At 12:04 PM 3/2/2004, you wrote:
>Let me ask you a different question:
>Are you putting this person on the grant for purely "support" reasons --
>i.e., you don't have the hard funds so you are transferring him to a
>training grant?  I can tell you from experience that if this is the
>case, it will not sit well with your NIH institute funding the grant.
>They want to see the most highly regarded (scientifically) postdocs
>appointed, not appointments by convenience.
>And yes, that person will probably lose out on benefits because this is
>a trainee position, although you can use the institutional funds for
>medical coverage.
>
>Joni
>
>Jon Elizabeth Hart, MPA, CIP
>Senior Director, Sponsored Programs Administration
>Senior Director, Human Subjects Protections Program
>The Rockefeller University
>1230 York Ave., NY, NY 10021-6399
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>Subject: [RESADM-L] T32 Question
>
>Hi
> My question is for those of you with experience in administering T32
>grants.  We would like to appoint a trainee/fellow to our T32 grant who
>currently is in a staff position.  The issue is how do we handle this
>individual's benefits which are adversely affected by changing the
>status
>from "permanent staff" to post-doc fellow.  It almost seems like we are
>penalizing the individual by putting them on the grant.  I would really
>appreciate finding out how your institution handles this within the
>guidelines of the NIH.  Thanks.
>
>Sunita
>
>Sunita Chaudhary, Ph.D.
>Director, Research Education
>The Cancer Institute of New Jersey
>Room 3723, Liberty Plaza
>335, George Street
>New Brunswick, NJ 08901
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